Anyone wanna go historic racing?

[Mike Self]

If you have a yearn to participate in historic racing, here's a fully restored Group 2 tii...and it can be yours.  Nice article, very cool car.  What's not to like about a non-turbo tii with 190 hp on board, with the suspension and brakes to match.

  

 

Caution - this orange BMW 2002 Tii racer packs a punch! | Classic Driver Magazine

 

mike

[AceAndrew]

I needed a good chuckle this morning, thank you.

[Lorin]

2 hours ago, AceAndrew said:

I needed a good chuckle this morning, thank you.

Same here !

[TobyB]

snort.

 

What scares me is that the plastic bumper E30's now vintage eligible in most sanctions...

 

t

 

[SydneyTii]

Love to know how they got 190 bhp using the standard plenum… oh wait might be a typo, perhaps it’s 109 bhp😜

[Son of Marty]

Can no one paint the hood supports 😒

[Preyupy]

1 hour ago, SydneyTii said:

Love to know how they got 190 bhp using the standard plenum… oh wait might be a typo, perhaps it’s 109 bhp😜

Maybe they calibrated their dyno with Shetland Ponys? 

[markmac]

Hmmmmnnn.  Interesting.  Grp 2 standards?  Looks like it was prepared as a 'Rallye' car.  I can say there are few if any Gr2 Homologation modifications that my car has - and mine has pretty much all of them.

[tzei]

190 hp… 2.2 l + silly cam, F2 pump, RON 100… maybe?

Steering wheel has herpes.

[markmac]

For anyone that is interested and or never seen these before, some really quality images of o2's and the various parts and pieces that were homologated for racing.

 

https://historicdb.fia.com/search?key=bmw+2002&type=car

[TobyB]

20 hours ago, Son of Marty said:

Can no one paint the hood supports 😒

That's not homologated, so, no.  You'd lose that protest.

 

t

240 bhp.  At the crank.  Of my truck.

Edited January 14, 2023 by TobyB

[mac]

190hp ??  Possibly.  Have any of you picked the memories of either Miller&Norburn or Korman from back in the IMSA-RS

days?  190+/-  probably.   G.H. Sharp had M&N motors.  He was right up there too. 

 

Mac. 

[markmac]

Agree, with super high compression, big cam, exhaust, PUMP etc. very plausible.  I can tell you for the short (very short) period of time running a sport 300 on my tii it was very fast, honestly it felt faster than with the A4 injection.  It didn't idle below 4k, but from 4-7k look out.  That is the cool thing about the Alpina system, idles at 800 and SMOOTH power on up to 7k, easy, fun to drive.  A standard tii injection set up with big cam, would be challenging and probably not so much fun to drive around town.  My opinon (based on some personal experience).

[TobyB]

A standard tii pump won't run with enough cam to make 160bhp.

Maybe I missed it, but I didn't see any mention of a racing pump.

 

Gordon, feel free to correct my number!

 

I can't get 190 out of a 2L 12:1 motor with 45's- but Byron can.

His piston is more domed than mine...

 

t

 

[ray_]

1 hour ago, TobyB said:

A standard tii pump won't run with enough cam to make 160bhp.

Maybe I missed it, but I didn't see any mention of a racing pump.

 

Gordon, feel free to correct my number!

 

I can't get 190 out of a 2L 12:1 motor with 45's- but Byron can.

His piston is more domed than mine...

 

t

 

I didn't see any mention of a dyno sheet.