Solex PHH 40 vintage photo

[Conserv]

6 minutes ago, mccusername said:

So I sent them off to Paltech Industries today. They do the rebushing etc. They seem knowledgeable and-- again-- enthusiastic. Being an expert on old carbs seems to make people grumpy for some reason. Their price is also an order of magnitude lower-- somewhere in the range of $4-500 per carb. I could give them 4 tries at it for the same $$ as using S&S. I have a 6.3 so Mercedes prices don't shock me... but $5600 for a pair of carbs I find shocking.

I will report back when they are done and the car is back on the road... so 7-10 years.

 

I’m only here cause I couldn’t afford a 6.3! ?

 

As a teenager, my favorite car was the 300SEL 6.3 — this, while all the “other guys” dreamed of Corvettes, Porsche’s, and Camaro’s,  Alas, I couldn’t begin to think about owning one and a wrecked 2002 was the closest thing to a 6.3 I could afford!

 

Best regards,

 

Steve

 

[mccusername]

Steve, I think you deserve a 6.3 and I know just the one...

[markmac]

Not many 16oo Ti's out there, guessing its the same one that matt and the guys at Sports Car Restoration have been cutting a part.  Major (major) project, acutally makes me feel (a little better) about mine.....

[mccusername]

@markmac I think the car you’re talking about belongs to @TG2k2. It’s Bristol. 

Mine is “Polaris”. It did stop and have a cup of coffee at SCR as I have another car there, but I’m not attacking the body in the foreseeable future. Mechanical restoration then we’ll see. 

I bought mine from @ClassDavid out of Alberta. It was originally out of the Vancouver area, one owner for 40 or so years, sat for 20. 

[markmac]

Very cool, will be fun to drive.  Good luck with your project.

[Oldtimerfahrer]

Jeff posted a ti brochure from 1969 in the 2002ti section, includes a color picture of a carb....

Andrew

[Hans]

Since we're talking about PHHs, could some kind soul measure the distance between the bottom of the float adjuster nut and the carb body on  a carb that currently works- just so I have a reasonable start point for setting the float levels? 

 

PS, great that someone has rescued that 1600ti. My first BMW drive was in 1968 at a dealer in Toronto who didn't have any 02s as demos, but took me out in his 1600ti. Wow.

 

I must confess I was seduced by 67 Mustang convertible. It took until 1973 for me to get a BMW. Never looked back.

Edited August 5, 2019 by Hans

[Jam3422]

The gap between the jam nut and float adjuster on my carbs is about 2.95 mm.  They run well.  It took a lot of trial and error to get it right.  I suspect there can be quite a bit of variation depending on the float valve, etc.  I'd love to track down (or make) the BMW float adjustment tool.

 

Good luck

[Simeon]

I made this tool. I haven’t used it in anger yet since my carb conversion is turning into nearly a 10 year odyssey and they are still sitting in a box. 

 

This uses a spare main jet holder, drilled and tapped to take a cap headed bolt which was in turn drilled out to allow fuel to pass through. Some suitable sized hose and some bent coat hanger to make a frame to hold the hose vertical (sits over the air horns). Got the idea from @Fishhead who made a similar one. 

 

My plan to use it it would work on one carb at a time and connect to the fuel pump. Starting with the needle valve at its lowest point, I would crank the engine and watch where the fuel level gets to on the gauge. Adjust the needle valve higher and crank again. Repeat by adjusting the valve upward and cranking until the float level gets to the required line on the carb body. 

 

Plugs out and ignition disconnected of course. 

 

[radiocure]

Sorry for bump, any other leads on solex sidedraft rebuilders? Paltech unfortunately no longer open for business. Looks as if Bob’s would be best bet, although not keen on overseas shipping. Thanks.

[zinz]

Rebuild them yourself? It’s not difficult and the kits are readily available from the Alfa guy on eBay. 
 

[NickVyse]

Just to add this to the knowledge base on this thread - recently recommended as the only REALLY trustworthy place to have them done properly in Germany.

 

https://www.vergaser-reparatur.de/die-arbeit-am-vergaser___

 

[Oldtimerfahrer]

14 minutes ago, NickVyse said:

Just to add this to the knowledge base on this thread - recently recommended as the only REALLY trustworthy place to have them done properly in Germany.

 

https://www.vergaser-reparatur.de/die-arbeit-am-vergaser___

 

Pretty bold statement, a few years ago Bob's was the place to go on the continent for phh repair. I had not heard that he retired, he is in Kassel as far as I know. Not familiar with Mr. Wipfler, so can't say. In the German scene Bob appeared in the restoration magazines as the specialist. 

Andrew

[NickVyse]

Just passing on the opinion of a well respected fettler of 02s and NKs - there may well be other equally respected guys, it's a big world, but also probably a shrinking one for people who work on this kind of old tech.

[uai]

Norbert Wipfler is well known in the scene.

You can see his approach to stuff in his restoration thread here 
http://www.genesis-it.de/BMW/

 

 

 

Edited May 11, 2022 by uai