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  1. Sold for $20,120. That seems like a screaming deal to me! I hope the new owner joins us on the forum. Congrats! Regards, Steve
  2. Both gauges are aftermarket. There were no console-mounted gauges whatsoever. And, there were no gauges for oil pressure and amperage — warning lights on the left multi-gauge handled both of those concerns. Many owners added gauges! Regards, Steve
  3. +1 What Mike^ said! In understanding the U.S.-spec cars, you must first realize that the Euro-spec cars (a.k.a., Rest of the World) employed the chrome-trimmed dashboard from the ‘02’s inception (March 1966) until the introduction of the Modell 71 (April 1971). Why does it matter? Because the chrome-trimmed dash incorporated an ashtray. Problem solved! Then, in 1968, the U.S. DOT torpedoed that tidy plan by outlawing those hard-faced dashboards. BMW had to use a fully padded dashboard and find a new place for the ashtray. So, beginning around November 1967, a new ashtray appeared within the console, just below its original location in the dash. And, as Mike says, there was no need to add anything else: the emergency flasher was originally under the steering column but had migrated to the tiny left “parcel shelf” of the dashboard. When the U.S.-spec cars arrived at the U.S. dealers, those short consoles were, indeed, dark caves, to be filled with, perhaps, a radio and speaker — generally an AM radio. So think simple if you’re hoping to emulate the typical short console! The first photo is from a July 1967 brochure (Euro-spec car). The second and third photos are from an April 1968 brochure (Euro-spec car). The fourth photo is from a May 1968 brochure (U.S.-spec car). And the fifth photo is from an undated brochure, but probably dates to June 1968 (U.S.-spec car with radio and speaker installed). My very early ‘70 (VIN 1668093, September 8, 1969), R.I.P., came to me from the first owner with a Blaupunkt Hamburg AM radio and single under-mounted speaker. Unlike this fifth photo, and following Mike’s note above, the front planes of the radio and speaker were aligned, and the combined duo were mounted vertically, which provided a small cubby area in front of the speaker. Remember, those cavernous consoles were blank slates for the radio installers. Regards, Steve
  4. Conserv


    The manufactured date of July 15, 1972 has been estimated and is not verified by BMW Group Archives. The car was sold on Bring a Trailer in September 2020: https://bringatrailer.com/listing/1972-bmw-2002tii-49/ Subsequently, the car won an award at the Hillsborough and was discussed, very briefly, in the following thread:
  5. The first three exterior photos below are of my ‘76 in April 1977. It is Polaris, paint code 060, PVC-frei formulation, as your 1974 would have been originally. First, assume that most or all of your car has been re-painted post-factory. The clear coat of the PVC-frei formulation generally began to fail within 2 to 4 years of manufacture, followed by deterioration of the base coat. Polaris PVC-frei paint in the engine compartments generally turned golden with age, so it might not be a good example of the color, if it remains original. My ‘76’s trunk and door jambs survived with Polaris in what I believe was close to its original color. But clearly panels of your car have been previously repainted, and you need to evaluate — not always possible if that repaint occurred 45 years ago — which panels might represent original paint and which have been re-painted. The fourth through sixth photos below, taken in September 2015, as I began prepping the car for its 2015-18 Big Re-Paint, shows the trunk’s original paint, and I’d say it appears to look fairly un-changed after 39 years. There’s likely to be similar original paint areas on your car, unless it’s had a comprehensive re-paint. Regards, Steve
  6. Hi,

    I read your post on the Polaris color with great interest because my ‘74 is being repainted in Polaris now and the body shop is telling me there is more than one formula. 
    From your post my guess is that the confusion stems from the “frei” variation. Rather than choosing between two mock ups, is there a way to tell which version of Polaris my car was painted with originally?

    Many thanks,



    1. Conserv




      From some time in the 1973 model year through the end of 2002 production in July 1976, BMW’s Polaris formulations were of the PVC-frei formula. But it remained paint code 060, the same paint code as several preceding formulations of the 2002 era. During the Neue Classe era, however, BMW briefly used a Polaris color having a 057 paint code. So I suspect the difference your body shop is finding might relate to the two different Polaris paint codes, 057 and 060, rather than changes of formulation within either code.


      If it’s unclear whether your two shades of Polaris are attributable to paint codes 057 and 060, I’d recommend choosing the color that best matches some un-touched original samples in your car, such as you might find in the trunk, or under the dash or carpet. As a Polaris car, you must assume that all or most of the car has been re-painted post-factory.








  7. I believe a Behr ash tray is simply a round taillight rear ashtray. Regards, Steve
  8. Hmm… probably with the switch from 3-piece to 2-piece dashboards, which occurred with the Modell 71 introduction (April 1971). Regards, Steve
  9. David, I believe round taillights may have received body schutz on the rear valance, but square taillights certainly did not. Below is my ‘76 before it was re-painted; I’m the original owner. The rear quarter panels, behind the rear wheel wells, were heavily and sloppily schutzed, but the schutz wrapped around the two rear corners and simply stopped. Best regards, Steve P.S. I happily defer to Tom and Toby, below, regarding schutz on round taillight examples!
  10. I believe all the tube-style headrests (very late 1968 through January 1973) have 10 mm. headrest supports. This is according to the 1970’s parts catalogue. The only reason I waffle a touch — i.e., “I believe…” — is because one of our very respected German members once mentioned that there was a slight mis-match between the changeover to the eared headrests and the changeover to the 12 mm. supports. If so, it wouldn’t be the first time that two new parts, planned to arrive at the same time, failed to arrive simultaneously! Stated differently, the parts catalogue sometimes represents an ideal or simple snapshot while “field conditions” were less orderly! Regards, Steve
  11. Ignore what I said previously. John ( @JohnP_02), a steering wheel authority, notes in the thread attached above by esty, that a 423 mm. version with real leather rim covering was manufactured for the E9… So there’s your difference! But I’m still curious whether early versions of the ‘02 sport wheel, i.e., those manufactured before April 1971, are 423 or 400 mm. overall. 😉 Best regards, Steve
  12. The OEM three-spoke steering wheels (plastic) went from 423 mm. overall to 400 mm. with the April 1971 introduction of the Modell 71 upgrade/facelift. I never thought about it, but perhaps the sport wheels followed suit with roughly the same timing. Look at the dates on both wheels: this might bear out that the larger wheel is earlier and the smaller wheel is later. I have 1972 and 1973 sport wheels — Euro (perforated spoke) and U.S. (indented spoke) — and I’m fairly confident both are 400 mm. versions. As to the thickness of the “pleather” rims, let’s just make certain we’re comparing apples with apples. The original rim covers were faux leather with molded stitching, quite realistic in appearance when new, less so as chunks of the padded rim broke off. If either of these wheels has actual stitching today, the original cover has likely been replaced with real leather, secured with real stitching. The original pleather coverings have not aged well. If you see one of these wheels in excellent or better condition, the original pleather has likely been replaced. I have no knowledge of the differences in “dish.” But perhaps the wheel’s dish changed as the overall diameter shrank. Again, let’s get some dates. It’s generally just a two-digit number representing the year stamped into the center hub. Below are three photos of a U.S.-version manufactured in 1972 (“72” on the center hub). Where it’s not badly worn, the faux stitching is fairly convincing. Best regards, Steve
  13. A steal at 5 times the price! 😉 They appear to be of the “eared” style that appeared in early February 1973, along with 12mm headrest supports. Assuming they’re 12mm, don’t try to fit them into the earlier 10mm seats — unless you’re changing the guides. Regards, Steve
  14. Fixed that! That man had no patience for slow cars, or slow women! Best regards, Steve
  15. +1 But a 236xxxx 2002 — which this appears to be — is a 1975. So either, as Son of Marty says, someone swapped on a 1976 49-state exhaust manifold and aluminum heat shield, or possibly more, e.g., a 1976 49-state engine. Let’s figure out what engine and head you have: Welcome back to the ‘02 community! Regards, Steve
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