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  1. Some (many) of the York’s have month/year manufacturing dates on them. Below is a June 1981 (“6 - 81”) York, which makes me believe that Daron’s first photo shows a February 1983 (“0283”) York. I’m not certain how to interpret the “010” on the second example. My ‘76’s original unit, a ‘76 unit, failed in 1978, and the unit I’ve kept for that 50-years-from-now date is the ‘78 unit. Regards, Steve
  2. Yes, Les, sealed beams were required on all U.S. vehicles at least from the 1950’s... The USA VIN’s began in 1968 because the U.S. DOT and EPA commenced a tidal wave of new safety and emissions regulations, but sealed beams were required long before 1968. Best regards, Steve
  3. Very cool! A very early 1600-2 (probably January 1967) for the track and an early 1968 1600-2 for restoration! The forward placement of the rearview mirror suggests October 1967 or earlier (as it’s manufacturing date). Wow! (Is the 1968 a VIN 1560xxx car?) GLWS, Steve
  4. I agree. It both “disappears” the distracting seam between the rims’s center disk and barrel, and adds apparent depth. It’s analogous to the factory painting the hood hinge supports black so they wouldn’t be a distraction — which, in turn, added to the apparent depth of the blacked-out grilles! Bravo! Regards, Steve
  5. Ahhh: Kleeblatts! Now I see why you were pursuing a non-‘02 rim option! Always beautiful, and classic. (Separately, a 185/60/14 is an undersized tire for an ‘02, nearly an inch smaller in outside diameter. 195/60/14 is generally a better replacement for 165/80/13.) Regards, Steve
  6. The sealed-beam requirement is old as the hills, well, it’s at least as old as I. Even before the 1968 regulations, U.S. imports needed to have either four 5 1/4” or two 7” sealed-beam headlights. This is why the gorgeous lights, often with covers, we saw throughout the 1960’s on European Mercedes, Jaguars, etc. were reduced to sealed beams for the U.S. market. My ‘58 and ‘59 Mercedes had U.S.-mandated sealed-beam headlights. Best regards, Steve
  7. U.S. delivery in 1968? Regards, Steve
  8. +1 Absolutely! But even the production era of the 2002ti (October-ish 1968 to April 1971) straddles the famous “Parcel Shelf Ridge Event”, when ridges suddenly arose from the parcel shelf. I cannot believe a knowing forum member (Mike S., are you seeing this?) hasn’t come along and explained when the ridges arose! 🤔 Best regards, Steve
  9. I’ve not seen that, but it sounds like you’re volunteering to produce a sample for our approval... I’d suppose it makes the rim look a bit more “deep dish”, which 99.9% of ‘02 owners like! We’re just going to hang out while you prepare the sample. 😋 Thanks and regards, Steve
  10. LMAO. Either you are friggin’ Columbo, or.... you’re reading a lot of personal experience into this analysis... 😯😋😉 Regards, Steve
  11. Yeah, but stick Tom alone in a room for a weekend with a couple of the vent wings and he’d devise some ratcheting mechanism that allows you to adjust the tightness of the vent as it wears. And.... you’d be able to make the adjustment without removing the door card... 😉 Regards, Steve
  12. Not U.S. equipment as far as I know. I was an ‘02 owner from ‘73 (including a ‘67, a ‘70, a brand new ‘76, a ‘72 tii I parted in ‘74, and a ‘74 2002A I parted in ‘75) and I never saw one of these “dog bowls” until the late 1980’s and that happened, perhaps coincidentally, to be on a Euro-spec car (a Bauer targa).... I’m happy to revise my opinion if other original owners took delivery of U.S.-spec cars with the rear dog bowls. Best regards, Steve
  13. +1 Ahhh Ceylon! Hated it — when it was rarely seen — in the 1970’s. Love it — still damned rare — today! Although BMW’s global paint and upholstery brochures do not support the claim, some believe that Ceylon was introduced on the 2002tii in its initial year. This claim was mentioned to me by the owner of a 1972 Ceylon tii who heard the claim from the car’s original owner. Arguing in favor of its possible truth are the following: 1. Polaris was introduced in 1964 and, for that year, was available solely on the 1800ti, the hot new high-performance sub-model (first photo: a May 1964 paint brochure). 2. Colorado was introduced in late 1968 and, for that year, was available solely on the 2002ti, the hot new high-performance sub-model (second through fifth photos: November 1968 and March 1969 paint and upholstery brochures). 3. Although there are only three factory-Ceylon 1972 model entries in the forum’s registry, all three are.... tii’s. Arguing against its truth are the following: 1. The tii (Euro-spec version) went into production in April 1971, yet the June 1971 paint and upholstery brochure did not yet show Ceylon as a color at all (sixth and seventh photos: June 1971 color and upholstery brochure). It would seem that they missed the mark if Ceylon was intended to celebrate the introduction of the hot new high-performance sub-model. 2. Ceylon first appears on a paint and upholstery brochure in January 1972 and is listed as available on the 1602, 1802, 2002, 2002tii, 2500, 2800, 3.0S, 3.0Si, 3.0CS, and 3.0CSi (eighth photo: January 1972 color and upholstery brochure). Simply Googling “1972 BMW Ceylon”, and keeping an eye out for color-changed cars, I’m seeing factory Ceylon tii’s and 3.0CS’s. So, without the formality and exclusivity exhibited with Polaris and Colorado, perhaps BMW was informally restricting Ceylon to the hot new sub-model and the Big Coupes, or simply to their more-expensive, more-exclusive models. In short, maybe — after Ceylon was introduced mid-year, and at least for the later half of the 1972 model year — no Ceylon 2002’s, or 1802’s, or 1602’s were produced.... More data is needed, in the form of more examples of factory Ceylon cars. The factory color of any ‘02 can be quickly and easily confirmed — at no cost — by emailing the VIN to BMW Group Archives and requesting their data on the car ([email protected]). Regards, Steve
  14. I’m guessing the answer might be yes, assuming you install 8 to 10mm spacers, which you’ll probably need to fit tires anyway. And you’ll need longer wheel studs to accommodate the spacers. Probably not an optimal rim for an ‘02, but I guarantee someone has made them work! (I’m guessing that the extra 1” of diameter means you avoid the tii brake issue, as long as you adjust the offset to something reasonable. Note also that alloys generally have thicker castings while steel rims are generally thinner stamped steel. This thickness difference can make a difference in fitment.) Best regards, Steve
  15. +1 I keep one around for the day — it’s still about 50 years away — when a “stock ‘02” has to have one of those boat anchors, er, I mean York units, to be considered “original” for concours judging purposes. They were also used in the late ‘60’s and early ‘70’s on some domestic cars and, consequently, there are firms rebuilding them and restoring them to their original appearance for use on high-buck muscle car restorations. You can purchase three new Sanden rotary compressors or five Sanden knock-off compressors for the price of a single mint restored York. Regards, Steve
  16. +1 VIN 1679381 should be a January 1971 U.S.-spec 2002. Also known as an “early ‘71” because it is a 1971 model before the April 1971 facelift that took the ‘02 from the pre-Modell 71 to the Modell 71. And Riviera, too. Nice. That asking price, however, seems ambitious to me, unless it’s an amazingly low-rust example and the engine turns over... 😉 Swan’s neck mirror still in place! Regards, Steve
  17. Huh? I always just turned that sum'bitch -- after I lost my friction coefficient gauge, of course... 😯😋 Thanks for letting me know I've been screwing up my steering boxes for 46 years, Hal! 😉 Best regards, Steve
  18. +1 Although the photos don’t show the lower front edge of the lower part, I agree with resra that it appears to be of the chrome-trimmed style. When combined with the ridges on the parcel shelf, it would appear to be a replacement dash — optimally — for a 1970-ish through April 1971 Euro-spec car. (For the life of me, I cannot recall if my very early 1970, manufactured September 8, 1969, had parcel shelf ridges or not... 😗) But if the presence of the ridges on the parcel shelf is ignored, it would be “almost correct” on any Euro-spec car before April 1971 and any U.S.-spec car before October-ish 1967. Regards, Steve
  19. Conserv


    I believe you’ve got an extra “6” in your car’s VIN: ‘02 VIN’s are all 7-digit. Although 1566789 is a 1969 model, it was probably manufactured in September or October 1968. BMW Group Archives can confirm the precise manufacturing date if you simply email them your car’s VIN and request their data on the car ([email protected]). There is no charge for this, and they generally reply within two business days. Sure would be nice to have some photos attached to this entry.... 😉 Regards, Steve
  20. Conserv


    The manufacturing date above, January 15, 1968, is an estimate and has not been verified by BMW Group Archives. O
  21. Just to be clear, Dave Redszus at Precision Auto Research is also the real deal when it comes to Kugelfischers.... 😉 http://www.precisionautoresearch.com/general info/WhoWeAre/PAR3.htm Regards, Steve
  22. I didn’t recall that! They’re certainly one of the best Kugelfischer rebuilders. (People will argue over who’s cheapest, who’s fastest, and some might equal, but none exceed, P.A.R. in the quality of their rebuilds.) Thanks and best regards, Steve
  23. Maybe you’ve said too much, Tom! 🤫 Well, your new electrified fence should at least slow down the WUR thieves. And you can watch ‘em fry with that new video surveillance system... 😉😋😂 Best regards, Steve Oh, yeah, back to business: Do I recall that you had a WUR professionally rebuilt and were happy with the outcome?
  24. Conserv


    Manufacturing date of February 4, 1972 is an estimate, not yet confirmed by BMW Group Archives. Sold on Bring a Trailer, for $68,800, on August 27, 2018: https://bringatrailer.com/listing/1972-bmw-2002tii-20/
  25. I’d call them, Paul. I’ll bet that the WUR’s come and go. Best regards, Steve

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