Let's hear it: _______________

[Conserv]

44 minutes ago, mccusername said:

I'm not surprised a tii is going for a $100k, I'm just surprised that this tii went for $100k.

It seems to me, Michael, that the these large-dollar buyers don’t read or care much about the details, such as the quality of a restoration, or the reputation of a restorer. If it looks stunning, they’re buying...

 

Or is it simply that they understand better than we that there will always be another deep-pocket buyer, like themself, willing to shell out for a shiny example of a desirable model?

 

Best regards,

 

Steve

 

[SydneyTii]

Ford Escort Lotus Twin cams are serious money, and the ones I’ve driven aren’t a patch on a well sorted Tii. Nice but not great.

I guess this is the reality of fun cars of this vintage.

Heres a thought, how many rhd srl Tii’s is there left, there wasn’t that many to start with!

[Mike A]

6 hours ago, Conserv said:

It seems to me, Michael, that the these large-dollar buyers don’t read or care much about the details, such as the quality of a restoration, or the reputation of a restorer. If it looks stunning, they’re buying...

 

Or is it simply that they understand better than we that there will always be another deep-pocket buyer, like themself, willing to shell out for a shiny example of a desirable model?

 

Best regards,

 

Steve

 

We may never know Steve, but my vote goes to the situation  that there were at least 2 guys in the room who had no thought of any DIY , who had deep pockets, a lust for collectible cars and a gap in their collection ....

Edited March 4, 2020 by Mike A

[Schon '02]

Hopefully the buyer is happy and the car met all of his must have check boxes, trophies will surely be added to his shelves. The seller sure is happy.

Our cars are not new, off the factory assembly line commodities, so each sale is unique. This is certainly an outlier, and in no way changes the core '02 market IMO. My very nice '73 "driver" is still worth "only" a quarter of the Euro tii sale price; investing another quarter of that sale price to raise the quality of my '73 to "better than new" will not double its value. There are no visions of grandeur or ideas of flipping my car as a result of this sale. I made a smart purchase two years ago, and am really enjoying owning and driving my car, probably more than the collector(?) of the Euro tii ever will. That being said, I think I've got the better deal at a fraction of the sale price.

[NYNick]

I just thought of something. I'm not home at the moment, but when I get back next week I'm gonna take my tii out and flog the living shit out of it, just to enjoy what the buyer of this car never will. That'll teach him.?

 

[fastricky]

6 minutes ago, NYNick said:

I just thought of something. I'm not home at the moment, but when I get back next week I'm gonna take my tii out and flog the living shit out of it, just to enjoy what the buyer of this car never will. That'll teach him.?

 

 

Picking up my tii tomorrow Nick, gonna beat you to it!

[COOP]

I think it’s frankly a bit silly to assume that, just because someone paid a high price for a car, it is therefore destined to be a garage/trailer queen. Just because you or I can’t or wouldn’t pay a given sum for a car with the intention to regularly drive it doesn’t mean that this rationale applies to a buyer of higher financial means or appetites. 

Edited March 4, 2020 by COOP

[Schon '02]

5 minutes ago, COOP said:

I think it’s frankly a bit silly to assume that, just because someone paid a high price for a car, that it is therefore destined to be a garage/trailer queen. Just because you or I can’t or wouldn’t pay a given sum for a car with the intention to regularly drive it doesn’t mean that this rationale applies to a buyer of higher financial means or appetites. 

Very true, but Parker99 already has 5 wins on BaT in 2020 alone. Hopefully he drives or uses them all the way they were intended for.

[Conserv]

3 minutes ago, COOP said:

I think it’s frankly a bit silly to assume that, just because someone paid a high price for a car, that it is therefore destined to be a garage/trailer queen. Just because you or I can’t or wouldn’t pay a given sum for a car with the intention to regularly drive it doesn’t mean that this rationale applies to a buyer of higher financial means or appetites. 

+1

 

100% agreed!

 

I have a brother-in-law with a new 911 GT3 RS and an amazingly-original 72 911S. He tracks the GT3 (it’s damned loud and uncomfortable on the street) and absolutely flogs the S. How you drive your cars is not simply a function of what you paid, or how how rich you are, it’s an attitude towards driving and cars that develops when you’re young.

 

Regards,

 

Steve

 

 

[fastricky]

I'm embarrassed to admit what I've put into my tii, but I'll be flogging it like I stole it this season as per usual ?

[tomphot]

1 hour ago, NYNick said:

I'm gonna take my tii out and flog the living shit out of it, just to enjoy what the buyer of this car never will. That'll teach him.?

 

I have a friend who owns a ‘57 Porsche 356 Carrera 4 Cam - $1,000,000+ example.  He drove his car and he had another buddy drive his Speedster to a 356 gathering ... Atlanta to Washington State - then down to LA and the southern route back to Atlanta.  He owns a couple dozen of the finest cars I know worth 8 figures.  He drives them all a lot and doesn’t hesitate doing these long road trips.

Edited March 4, 2020 by tomphot

[rcf925]

I built my 68 restomod to drive and I drive it hard, I don't really think about the value, I'ts just how I have driven all my vintage cars over the years, I work on all my own stuff so if I break it I fix it

[NYNick]

Way to go fellas. See you all on the roads. Stay clear of the troopers.

[kaptanoglu]

2 hours ago, NYNick said:

I just thought of something. I'm not home at the moment, but when I get back next week I'm gonna take my tii out and flog the living shit out of it, just to enjoy what the buyer of this car never will. That'll teach him.?

 

Excellent idea. 
 

I will say that it is possible to both pay too much and also flog the crap out of it. Once it’s been restored we’ll once, it’s a lot cheaper to clean it up later (I hope)

[JerryC]

Well, now it's Parker's car and he gets to do whatever he wants to it, within legal limits of course.

 

For me, if I had the kind of disposable cash where $100k for an old car was no big deal, I'd set aside the time to build my own.

 

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