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outer tie rods or just tie rod ends?

Pablo M

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Last bit that needs replacing on my front suspension are the outer tie rods, the left and right ones. Center link is new already.

Looking the parts up I see the tie rods are available whole as well as just the ends. 

Is there a reason one would opt for the whole bit vs just the ends? 

Each side is ~$100 new, vs $12 each end. so $200 vs $48...

 

Whole tie rod

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You are correct it's cheaper to just replace the outer tie rod end.

 

Some people don't mind paying extra for a complete assembly, just for ease. I would rather spend my time and save some money.

 

Don't forget to mark the threads so you can put the new part in the same spot.

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Oh man! I totally would have done this. I didn't realize the ends are available separately.

 

Dang.

 

Thanks for the post, next time I know what to do.

 

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17 minutes ago, 2002iii said:

Don't forget to mark the threads so you can put the new part in the same spot.

Yup, mark and count the turns for each should get you close enough to drive for about 50-100 miles before getting it aligned.

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44 minutes ago, 2002iii said:

You are correct it's cheaper to just replace the outer tie rod end.

 

Some people don't mind paying extra for a complete assembly, just for ease. I would rather spend my time and save some money.

 

Don't forget to mark the threads so you can put the new part in the same spot.

Perfect. Seemed everyone replaced them as a unit. No point to me. I'm with you on just replacing whats needed. I have plenty to spend money on with this project otherwise lol!
 

 

25 minutes ago, Son of Marty said:

Yup, mark and count the turns for each should get you close enough to drive for about 50-100 miles before getting it aligned.

Exactly what I was planning to do. Get it close enough to test drive it around and go have it aligned. 

 

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One more question:

They're listed as right hand thread, outer left or right. Are the two ends of each tie rod the same? So I would just need 4?

 

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11 minutes ago, '76mintgrün'02 said:

 

No.  The inner end has a bend.

 

Last time I looked, Rock Auto had a few outers to choose from, but no inner ends.


What brand ends are you buying?

Was going to buy Lemforder. That’s a trusted brand for my e39 parts so I trust them. But I don’t see any of the inners available. Boo. 

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Blunt has them. Personally I wouldn't buy a bottle of water from Pelican since ECS took over please support the boards vendors. 

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7 minutes ago, Son of Marty said:

Blunt has them. Personally I wouldn't buy a bottle of water from Pelican since ECS took over please support the boards vendors. 

Blunt doesn't have the outers and inners individually, only the full tie rods and only as part of a full suspension refresh kit (which I don't need). 

And I buy from Blunt often, as well as IE, more Blunt these days. They're great. But so is Pelican, and Pelican carries lots of parts for my other cars: volvos, my e46, my e39, my sons e30. They're also local to me so I can do curbside pickup and usually get the parts next day. 

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2 minutes ago, Pablo M said:

Blunt doesn't have the outers and inners individually, only the full tie rods

 

Lemforder inners are listed as available.  

Tie Rod End

 

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6554b6be8c0d829a8bf63ae0c82cf121_link.pn BluntTech Industries • Tie Rod End

WWW.BLUNTTECH.COM
Inner tie rod end. 2 per car

 

Blunt can often provide more parts than the ones listed in the online catalog.  You could send them an email or give them a call about the outer ends.

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And AutoHausAZ has them.

 

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6554b6be8c0d829a8bf63ae0c82cf121_link.pn Lemfoerder 32211114844, 1315403 Tie Rod End; Inner; Left Hand Thread - BMW

WWW.AUTOHAUSAZ.COM
Find Lemfoerder, 1315403 Tie Rod End; Inner; Left Hand Thread 32211114844 at discount prices in our extensive BMW auto parts catalog. AutohausAZ offers a large selection of Lemfoerder parts online. 2 per car. Fits BMW 2002, 2002tii, 1600, 2002ti, 1600ti. 1315403

 

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