E10 engine rebuild

[Hudo's 1st 02]

I am curious about how much would it be to rebuild my engine in my 76 02?

[Hans]

Hard to say until you get it apart unfortunately. Depends on whether you need new pistons, whether head is salvageable.

 

What leads you to think you need a rebuild?

[jrhone]

Also depends on how much power you want and what parts it will take to get it there.  Go fastparts cost more.  Could be $2500-$15000.  

[AceAndrew]

The engine is referred to as the "M10", rebuilds can run from 1k to 6k (or more) depending on what you define as "rebuilt".

 

There is a LOT of information in regards to engine building here on the FAQ if you search before posting.  If you would like a more tailored response, it would be nice to know more about you and your plans.  The more information you provide, the more suited the response.

[Schnellvintage]

The average rebuild will cost you between $5k and $8k. Depending on the parts and if you remove and install. If you want to drive it in and pick it up. That would cost more.


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[Hudo's 1st 02]

Man that’s a lot o cash for a lil ol 4 banger. Looks like this poor ol boy will just wait till it blows up. Thank you all for the info, at least I know what I am up against. Should of just held on to my 77 Bronco. Parts and service was a lil more practical .

[Sahara]

6 minutes ago, Hudo's 1st 02 said:

Man that’s a lot o cash for a lil ol 4 banger. Looks like this poor ol boy will just wait till it blows up. Thank you all for the info, at least I know what I am up against. Should of just held on to my 77 Bronco. Parts and service was a lil more practical .



Nice Bronco. Do you know what the mileage on your current 2002's motor is? They're pretty durable, I'll let other more knowledgeable forum members weigh in but I believe we have somebody here has 225,000 on a rebuilt motor (so probably close to 400,000 on the core!). 

[Hudo's 1st 02]

The speedo reads 82,000 plus. I find that hard to believe seeing how it turns over @ 100,000 ya know. To be honest, I’ve driven it around town and it seems to be strong running with no issues at the moment. Haven’t had it on the highway yet. I took a gamble and bought it sight  un seen out of Colorado for 9,500. 

[Sahara]

2 minutes ago, Hudo's 1st 02 said:

The speedo reads 82,000 plus. I find that hard to believe seeing how it turns over @ 100,000 ya know. To be honest, I’ve driven it around town and it seems to be strong running with no issues at the moment. Haven’t had it on the highway yet. I took a gamble and bought it sight  un seen out of Colorado for 9,500. 

Nice. Was the seller, by chance, a middle eastern guy with a used car dealership? If so I'm pretty sure I almost bought that same car! 

[Hudo's 1st 02]

3 minutes ago, Sahara said:

Nice. Was the seller, by chance, a middle eastern guy with a used car dealership? If so I'm pretty sure I almost bought that same car! 

Yes ! Sam was the name they gave me. Why didn’t you? Just curious....

[Sahara]

3 minutes ago, Hudo's 1st 02 said:

Yes ! Sam was the name they gave me. Why didn’t you? Just curious....

He was asking a lot more than $9500 when I saw it and it was not a good value at that price, IMO. For $9500 it's a damn good buy, though. It had some minor issues that were fixable but I wanted a more turnkey car. Also I preferred a slicktop for simplicity's sake. As for your motor, give him a call, I believe Sam said that engine was at least partially rebuilt already when I spoke with him. 

Edited December 31, 2018 by Sahara

[Hudo's 1st 02]

Got it, yea he was asking like 12,900. He said he would take 10,500 which scared me cause he came down a lot right from the beginning. I countered with 9,500 and he excepted 2 days later. I saw worse conditioned 02 at the time for 15 grand or more. 

[Hans]

Which brings me back to my question: why do you think it needs to be rebuilt?

[Hudo's 1st 02]

1 minute ago, Hans said:

Which brings me back to my question: why do you think it needs to be rebuilt?

 Nothing at this time. I bought it about 2 months ago. It runs good, strong as far as I can tell. It shows 82,000 miles but that can’t be accurate. Obviously you know the mileage turns over after 100,000, and given it age I figured I’d try and get and idea of what it would cost. 

[Mike Self]

2 hours ago, Hudo's 1st 02 said:

Nothing at this time. I bought it about 2 months ago. It runs good, strong as far as I can tell. It shows 82,000 miles but that can’t be accurate.

You can usually tell by other methods whether the odometer is 82k or 182k.  Look at the pedal pads; they're remarkably long lived, and shouldn't show much wear at 82k.  How's the clutch?  On a squarelight like yours, the clutch is good for 100-125k miles, depending on the driver. If it's 82k, it may well be original; at 182k I'm sure it won't be.  Check all around the car for old oil change stickers, receipts in the glovebox, under the seats etc.  If it was previously titled in Colorado, the state DMV may be able to help.  Many states have archives that can provide previous owner's names etc.  And most states require an odometer statement from the seller that certifies the mileage is correct. 

 

I'd also do a compression and then a leakdown test to determine compression, then go on the FAQ archives and read up on determining engine condition--smoking on acceleration, smoking on deceleration (throttle closed), color of smoke emitted etc.  As was previously stated, unless horribly abused, M10 motors last a long time--my '69 has 226k on the original engine with nothing more than a valve job at 157k.  Still going strong, too.

 

mike