Tii VIN Number Thread

[Greggotii]

Thank you!

 

I think it was manufactured in early September of '71, but I'm still waiting to hear back from the Archive Group to confirm that.

Edited August 17, 2016 by Greggotii

[tjones02]

2760007 was Oct. '71, so 0048 would've been very soon after. That and 0007 is alive and well again after a long slumber!

[Conserv]

38 minutes ago, tjones02 said:

2760007 was Oct. '71, so 0048 would've been very soon after. That and 0007 is alive and well again after a long slumber!

 

First, Tom, the tii looks absolutely great!  It's wonderful to know it's back in regular use -- whatever "regular use" may be for a 44-year-old tii.  I realize the blue license plate is modern but how'd you/your father manage to get THAT tag?  Cool!

 

And, because you've previously published it, 2760007's manufacturing date was October 20, 1971.  I, too, expect 0048 to follow (very) shortly after 0007 -- even, conceivably, the same day.

 

Congrats to you and the family on having one of the first U.S.-spec tii's, and one of very few still in the original owner's hands, on the road and looking great!

 

Best regards,

 

Steve

 

[tjones02]

Mom and Dad's 2002 TII plate dates from 1978 when 7 letter plates were first available for non commercial applications. There's a neat story about a nice DMV employee helping them get that plate.

[Conserv]

6 minutes ago, tjones02 said:

Mom and Dad's 2002 TII plate dates from 1978 when 7 letter plates were first available for non commercial applications. There's a neat story about a nice DMV employee helping them get that plate.

 

Tom,

 

Whoa!  That is so, so, so cool!

 

Best regards,

 

Steve

 

[Greggotii]

I just received this from the Archive Group: 

 

The BMW 2002 tii US VIN 2760048 was manufactured on October 21st, 1971 and delivered on November 08th, 1971 to the BMW importer Hoffman Motors Corp. in New York City. The original colour was Atlantik, paint code 041.

 

Wunderbar!

[MikeD]

25 minutes ago, tjones02 said:

Mom and Dad's 2002 TII plate dates from 1978 when 7 letter plates were first available for non commercial applications. There's a neat story about a nice DMV employee helping them get that plate.

Tom....Great Plate.  I was lucky to have gotten mine when Virginia went to 7 characters.  I waited up till midnight the night before and hit buy at one minute pass midnight.

[Conserv]

34 minutes ago, Greggotii said:

I just received this from the Archive Group: 

 

The BMW 2002 tii US VIN 2760048 was manufactured on October 21st, 1971 and delivered on November 08th, 1971 to the BMW importer Hoffman Motors Corp. in New York City. The original colour was Atlantik, paint code 041.

 

Wunderbar!

 

Thanks, Greg,

 

I generally assume that September 1 marks the beginning of a new BMW U.S. model year, at least during the '02 era.  And I still believe that that's often correct.  But I've seen at least two BMW VIN's, one with an August 30th date, the other with an August 31st, that say that -- depending on what day of the week September 1 might be -- a U.S. model year could start even earlier than September 1.  On the other hand, both the 1972 and 1973 U.S. tii models appear to be examples of models for which production commenced later, October in both cases.  And the 48th 1974 U.S. tii (2780048) had a manufacturing date of November 19, 1973, suggesting to me that 1974 U.S. tii production did not begin until November.

 

Why?  I don't know.  Did BMW prefer to get the non-tii U.S. models rolling off the line before dealing with a specialty vehicle like the tii?

 

Regards,

 

Steve

 

[tjones02]

2 hours ago, Conserv said:

 

Tom,

 

Whoa!  That is so, so, so cool!

 

Best regards,

 

Steve

 

Thank You!

 

Here's a shot of the car in Aug '74 at the very first Monterey Historic Races, with its original plate. That's how the car was delivered to the dealer from Hoffman, with the Anco bars, Shelby Cal 500 wheels and Ansa Sport exhaust. That's also Mom in the driver seat. I was born just three months later. Other pictures on the roll show her baby bump.

[tomphot]

7 minutes ago, tjones02 said:

Thank You!

 

Here's a shot of the car in Aug '74 at the very first Monterey Historic Races, with its original plate. That's how the car was delivered to the dealer from Hoffman, with the Anco bars, Shelby Cal 500 wheels and Ansa Sport exhaust. That's also Mom in the driver seat. I was born just three months later. Other pictures on the roll show her baby bump.

 

You can go to the Historic's this weekend - BMW is the marque brand 

[tjones02]

31 minutes ago, tomphot said:

 

You can go to the Historic's this weekend - BMW is the marque brand 

Why what a great idea... We're here now.

[thehackmechanic]

Okay, so, as per other posts, I appear to be going into full-on geek mode about certain things. I just downloaded the PDF of the 2002 parts catalog from the tii register, and discovered this thread. I'll post my '72 and '73 tiis later.

 

I have a question for you '72tii guys.

 

The parts book shows the first '73tii (pointy overriders) to be 2762630, so anything before that is a "model year 72" with (ahem) pre-2 1/2 mph bumpers (rear bumper up against body, front bumper sticking out no further than the hood).

The parts book shows the first metal intake plenums to be at 2761944, so anything earlier than that has plastic intake plenums.

So those tiis from 2761944 through 2762629 should have metal plenums and close-in bumpers, right? Those are actually the "late '72" cars, right? Does anyone have one?

I've always thought of "early '72tiis" as having plastic intake plenums and close-in bumpers, and "late '72tiis" as having both metal plenums and stood-out bumpers with pointy overriders, but those are actually "model year" '73s that were built and/or titled as '72s, aren't they?

 

Damn I'm learning a lot this week...

 

--Rob

[saaron]

Hey - scanning this in between meetings, but Paul figured out that the US cars switched the plenums back and forth a few times.  He posted that a couple of times.

 

Scott

[thehackmechanic]

Thanks Scott. I'll look that up. I didn't see that in my first attempt at looking at the parts book, but I'm a noob.

[MatthewCervi]

2 minutes ago, thehackmechanic said:

Thanks Scott. I'll look that up. I didn't see that in my first attempt at looking at the parts book, but I'm a noob.

I'd check directly with Paul.  I'm pretty sure the change back to plastic isn't documented in the parts book--more of a case of "yeah, these metal runners do work a lot better, but we only ordered a trial run of 200 of them so lets go back to plastic until more come in.  The biergarten is going to fill up if we waste any more time talking about this."