oil temp sender ?

[Guest_anonymous]

I am going to drill and tap the boss on my filter head for a VDO oil temp sender. What is the part number for the sender for this location?

Cannot come up with good search terminology to yeild a part number.

TIA Daron

[TobyB]

In the words of my obnoxious high- school physics teacher,

'that depends.'

Upon several things.

If you use a 1/8 NPT, 10mm, etc tap,

and if you use a 125c or 150c

gauge, mostly.

linkys for helpy:

http://www.egauges.com/vdo_send.asp?Sender=300F_150C_VDO

http://www.egauges.com/vdo_send.asp?Sender=250F_120C_VDO

t

[Guest_anonymous]

Thx Toby. Further extrapolation uncovered a 150*c gauge among my stash. Most of the senders for that range, whether sae or metric seem to have a long sensor stem. Is there a problem as brought up in this thread:

http://www.bmw2002faq.com/component/option,com_forum/Itemid,0/page,viewtopic/p,925951/highlight,/sid,c26368401a9734c08078f0473af24af7/

The smallest metric threaded sensor stem looks to be part 323-092. Is there enough meat on the boss to accomodate m12x1.5 ? or is the length of the stem irrelevant to allow proper oil flow were I could use the 323-423 at m10x1.0 ?

[Mike Self]

gauge and sender (both VDO) from a VW Rabbit GTI or Sirocco--I forget which. Anyway, the sender was very small--and short--and worked just fine once I drilled and tapped the oil filter housing as you're proposing.

You might either go to a VW Rabbit/Golf message board or a VW specialist--I'm sure that sender is readily available.

mike

[Guest_anonymous]

Ha ! (Palm to forehead) like I somehow forgot to grab the oil sender from that Cabrio pod thinking it was a water temp gauge.

Something like this:

http://www.fcpeuro.com/products/vw-engine-oil-temperature-sender-1h0919563

M10x1.0

Will scavange the bone yards thx

[TobyB]

The only stinky about the 10x1mm sender is that it wants a flat surface

to seal the shank to, so you have to be careful to get the threads

perpendicular to the surface.

I do that by clamping the housing into the mill

(a drill press would work too)

drilling a pilot, using a spotfacer to make a flat,

then drilling and tapping using the mill as the square.

It's a bit involved, but it works every time. I set temp senders into the diff covers that way...

The nice thing about the npt stuff is that you don't have to be perfectly square. And you can go into curved surfaces.

I sank mine into the side of the housing, just because I wanted to use the

tii fitting for the accusump. That was overkill, though.

t

[Guest_anonymous]

Both senders VDO from VW"s 150*c

Right 1H0 919 563

Left 049 919 563A (which carries the same part # for 180*c senders)

Thank you all.

[jdeitch]

Ha ! (Palm to forehead) like I somehow forgot to grab the oil sender from that Cabrio pod thinking it was a water temp gauge.

Something like this:

http://www.fcpeuro.com/products/vw-engine-oil-temperature-sender-1h0919563

M10x1.0

Will scavange the bone yards thx

Thanks!  I just ordered mine. Perfect.

[M3M3]

Buy a new one. They are cheap from vdo.

 

www.egauges.com

Edited October 7, 2013 by mlytle

[mbaum.collects@gmail.com]

Daren,

I used this Sender Adaptor for oil pressure (BMW) This Adaptor is needed to mount an oil Pressure Gauge Sender to any BMW 2002 or E30 BMW. It has a 12mm mounting banjo bolt and the adaptor block is drilled to ( 10mm X 1.0k) ( VDO sender part# 360-023) from parker performance keeps orig idiot light and allows for oil PSI on back of block behind the dizzy

 

hope all is well, went by your old house friday looks beautiful in the fall colors

[Rocan]

Hmm... I could probably knock a few of those up pretty easily with some 1" square stock and the correct banjo bolt.... Heck, would be a good way to get a turbo oil feed and have multiple senders (with any thread pitch) all at the back of the head...

[jdeitch]

Hmm... I could probably knock a few of those up pretty easily with some 1" square stock and the correct banjo bolt.... Heck, would be a good way to get a turbo oil feed and have multiple senders (with any thread pitch) all at the back of the head...

Available from Bavarian Autosport.

Part Number 240 043K

$36.95

I drilled and tapped my spare housing today. Waiting on sender to arrive.

Edited October 8, 2013 by jdeitch

[jdeitch]

Sender arrived and installed.

['76mintgrün'02]

I decided to drill/tap mine while doing an oil change yesterday.  I took Toby's advice and milled the top of the boss flat, prior to drilling and used the drill press to get the tap started.  (I disregarded his advice about not using the drill press as a milling machine )

 

Now for a silly question, or two.  Can I use either a temperature, or pressure sender at this location?

Opinions on which is more 'relevant'?  I am thinking I would prefer pressure...

 

I also noticed what I believe is another temp sensor mounted in the underside of my intake manifold.  I take it this one was part of the emissions package?  Would that be a useful location to feed a temp gauge, or is it 'tainted' by the cold incoming fuel mix?  

(I did replace the missing bolt, connecting the manifold to the starter bracket).

 

I spent a ton of time trying to get this part clean.  The nooks and crannies were quite stained and chemicals were not cutting it.  I tried a little soda blasting, but did not like the frosted look.  In the end, a worn down gray scotchbrite pad and a bamboo skewer did the trick.  Such a pretty little casting....

 

While 'in the area', I also removed the air pump bracket (such an ugly old casting)... which led to a bunch more oily gunk to clean up.  

... and that is why it took me all day to change my oil  (cleaning cleaning cleaning)

Tom

[TobyB]

Tom, as always, your workmanship's impressive.

Drill press not withstanding...

 

I run a long- nose oil temp sender in that spot, just because taking

pressure at the back of the head seems like a great way to make sure

there's oil all over the engine.

 

And I THINK that temp thingus under the manifold is a switch, not a 

sender.  But it will say on its side...

 

t

 

Edited June 8, 2017 by TobyB