Refresh vs Restore? Subframe Re&Re and Undercoating. (Long)

[PaulTWinterton]

13 hours ago, rstclark said:

leave it more original to show that there is nothing to hide .

What are the opinions about this ?   

 

That was my dilemma.  In the northern climates we are faced with temperature and humidity fluctuations WAY more so than in SoCal.  I had to do something.  At minimum surface rust can run all along the edges (below the rockers) and in the recesses anywhere from the C pillar back.  Rust Bullet and Por-15 are great products but where do you stop?  The minute you apply a treatment and a coating  you are saying "maybe there is something hiding under there".  

 

I decided I don't care.  The car is not for sale and if I did sell it, I have tons of pictures showing before and after.  At least now I have the peace of mind knowing that I have kicked some rust butt and addressed the hidden and boxed areas never touched by protective coatings before.

 

By the way...Eastwood Internal Frame Coating is a really cool product.

 

If I was so lucky to have a SoCal 02 and lived in San Diego I'd probably do nothing except inspect the rockers, shock tower boxes and the subframe carrier boxes to make sure there is no dirt and moisture trapped inside.

 

10 hours ago, '76mintgrün'02 said:

spritz it with fish oil 

 

Fish oil?  That's a first for me.  Sounds smelly.

 

Side note: The bottom of my car is in better than average shape for a nothern car likely due to an oil leak for most of it's early life.  I had to scrape 1/4" of oily dirt off to find factory undercoat, overspray, and primer in good condition on the majority of the bottom.

['76mintgrün'02]

5 hours ago, PaulTWinterton said:

Fish oil?  That's a first for me.  Sounds smelly.

 

ah, but they have deodorized oil as well. 

 

I am not suggesting you put this on your car, Paul. 

Just commenting on the post that said we have two choices... nope, at least three!

 

  

Aerosol Fish Oil 350g

PRODUCT CODE

 

AAFO350

PRODUCT SIZE

 

1.5 G

Deodorised Fish Oil is a deodorised protective coating long considered to be one of the most effective products in the prevention of rust. Deodorised Fish Oil penetrates through rust to give protection to the parent metal from further rusting.

 

 

 

[saaron]

Inspiring us all, as usual!  Great job!  

 

Scott

[chargin]

Great Job!

 

Lots of fun and feeling accomplished when you're done with the subframe 

 

 

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[PaulTWinterton]

Final steps completed.  Torqued Hub nuts.  Did I reach 300 ft lbs?  I don't know, but I did my best.

 

Road test!  All feels good and no leaks!  Yay!  2019 driving season starts today!!!

 

 

 

 

[jp5Touring]

So much cool going on their 

['76mintgrün'02]

26 minutes ago, PaulTWinterton said:

Torqued Hub nuts.  Did I reach 300 ft lbs?  I don't know, but I did my best.

 

I believe your 150 pound body (guessing) standing on a two foot long breaker bar should put you right at 300 foot pounds.  

 

I need to stop reading your posts and looking at your photos.  My car seems filthy and neglected now.

[PaulTWinterton]

2 hours ago, '76mintgrün'02 said:

two foot long breaker bar should put you right at 300 foot pounds.  

 

Actually more like 40 inches of steel pipe.  But I only put my shoulder into it. 

 

I'm hoping to make the Burgers&BMWs event coming up.  ROADTRIP!  Look forward to seeing you then. 

[theNomad]

I'll be doing this very thing... but completely different approach and it won't look that good when I'm done....

[1936spyder]

Geez that's gorgeous. What kind of paint did you use for your exhaust? I just purchased a brand new OEM Ebersbacher exhaust and it wasn't perfect cosmetically speaking from the get-go so I'd like to paint it soon.

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[PaulTWinterton]

2 hours ago, 1936spyder said:

What kind of paint did you use for your exhaust?

 

VHT matte grey.  Very similar to the stock OEM finish.  You can see the stock finish in my opening post...not so pretty.  Leaking rusty moisture at the edges, but still working well, at about 8 years old (guessing).

Edited March 21, 2019 by PaulTWinterton

[rstclark]

Did a search for VHT  "Matt Grey"  and only found it available in UK  maybe Canada too ?

Is this available in the US ?   Other VHT paint like  Cast Iron or Silver just don't look right  The "Matt Grey" looks great but at about $35 a can with shipping from the UK,  there but be an alternative.

[rstclark]

Opps  to answer my own question VHT reports the the paint is  Number ESP 104 000 and is sold in most auto parts stores in the US

It doesn't seem to be on the shelf near me but with the number at least it can be ordered.

[BarrettN]

Any suggestions for undercoating? I need to undo some work the previous owner did with the driveshaft center bearing bracket that will involve grinding and rewelding. 

[PaulTWinterton]

This past Winter I lifted the car again and removed the exhaust system, driveshaft and transmission in preparation to complete the refinishing of the bottom of the car from the B pillar to the engine bay bulkhead.  I could not leave the job half done, as I reminded myself that the rear subframe, trunk and under the rear seats were all shiny and fresh, while forward of that was grimy with patches of surface rust.

 

Scraping, degreasing, grinding, sanding, rust treatment, masking, priming and painting. Done!

 

 

 

 

 

 

Next is the engine bay and front subframe.  Not sure yet when that will happen. Probably do that while the engine is being rebuilt.  Someday.

 

2020 driving season starts tomorrow!  Yay!

 

Edited March 7, 2020 by PaulTWinterton