M20 Triple weber build x2

[Aus02]

looking great!

 

what did you use for the 'Flocking Glue'?

 

was it just a plastic primer?

 

I might visit your store also and get me one of those tacho adapters for my M42 transplant... see you soon in your shop!

 

Robert

[Ireland Engineering]

2 hours ago, Aus02 said:

what did you use for the 'Flocking Glue'?

Looks like the "Flock-It" kit, just google the name. Works great, super easy to do, and you get enough to do like 20 glove boxes.

Edited March 26, 2019 by Ireland Engineering

[AceAndrew]

2 hours ago, ray_ said:

There are those who make an adhesive vinyl overlay for gauge faces, ya know.

 

Yeah...., I had a couple.... they didn't really do it for me..

 

 

2 hours ago, Aus02 said:

looking great!

 

what did you use for the 'Flocking Glue'?

 

was it just a plastic primer?

 

I might visit your store also and get me one of those tacho adapters for my M42 transplant... see you soon in your shop!

 

Robert

 

It was a generic epoxy primer, did the trick nicely.  EDIT: oop, IE for the plus one, haha.

 

Just let me know when!  The car is at CoupeKing, where I work on Saturdays.  I'm in Garden Grove, working out of a garage when not studying like a madman, not quite as "scenic".  

Edited March 26, 2019 by AceAndrew

[AceAndrew]

I've been really busy with life the past few months.  In the middle of an internship that may be a career move!  Have some very patient people waiting on me to finish a few projects.  New parts are in production.

 

 

Hood Latch rod restoration finished.  I found stainless split pins from McMaster that were a nice alternative to the factory pins.  McMaster #91610A510.

 

Funny little thing I never knew were the differences in the cable mount.  There is an early and late style.  Early style has a normal bolt with a folded-over retainer.  Late style used a bolt with a round head with a chunk missing.

 

Early:

 

Late:

 

Roll Pins

 

All together.  I know the bar is "correct" in blue zinc with nickel-plated ends, but the yellow-zinc is oh so nice.

 

 

Wiper Arms:

 

The wiper arms were polished to a satin finish and then clear coated.  The threaded ends checked out great (thankfully).  Fresh plated hardware (though the nuts need chroming), fresh nozzles, and fresh wipers rounded things out.  I am rebuilding the wiper motor right now.

 

 

 

 

 

Fuel Tank:

Restored the factory fuel tank.  It was in great shape thankfully.  Started by cleaning the inside thoroughly, great news that no coatings were needed.  

 

Next was stripping off all the old paint.

 

Painted the bottom portion with a brush and the heavy-duty epoxy primer (as used on the undercarriage).  

 

Shot the top of the tank with the same stuff, just in a paint gun.

 

Then sprayed the bottom with Wurth Schutz.  New drain plug (M10x1.0) hardware from Belmetric (#DP10X1.0AHYLW)

 

The top was painted satin black, and one more thing done!

 

 

 

"STEALTH FUEL PUMP RECIPE:

Parts:

-Late E30 325i Carrier and fuel-level sender

-Early E30 (or similar) low-pressure pre-pump

 

 

Since I'm going carbs, this setup is also compatible with a standard carb'd M10.  I've seen a number of variances surrounding this setup but this one is ideal for this car.  No external fuel pumps, no drilling/mounting, OEM parts, not too shabby.  In addition, the early 12 gallon tank is roughly 8" deep, this pump (with filter) ends up right there at 8".  No cutting and lengthening needed (and the fuel sender will still read accurately).

 

This same setup (with a return nozzle (early E30 carrier) and a high-pressure pump) is the one "6goesinto2" brings up and is pretty common for 318i-injection-swappers as well.  

 

The low-pressure pump options:

1) "E21/E30 low-pressure in tank pump" aka the Vega pump for E28 guys.  There are a lot of part numbers, including... Airtex #E8187H and Spectra #SP1159.  This pump is rated for 3.5-6psi roughly, so it's plenty for a carbed car.

 

 

2) The dark horse, from Volvo.  This one also has a lot of part numbers, but #23430100 works.  It's claimed to have the same pump rating, but I still need to verify.  It fits the E30 carrier much better than the other pump, but that's splitting hairs.  Terminal wires need to be changed to match the pump.

 

 

 

 

And there we have it, a stealth electric fuel pump!  Thank you to those on the FAQ who have brought up this setup in the past.

 

 

 

Radiator (FINAL DESIGN):

 

So finally the radiator specs were finalized and I called Patrick up at Midnight Motorsports for help.  He said to send over the (US-made) core and he'd tack on the end-tanks and pipes.  He'd then send it down for me to test fit, and then I'd send it back up to him to finish it up.  It's great to have something Patrick's made on the car, he's been one of my favorite 02 people since forever.  His gratuitous speed holes were icing on the cake.

 

FYI: He's made a template of this radiator, so it is possible to make more of this design if someone wishes.

 

Here's the test fit.

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

Edited January 28, 2020 by AceAndrew

[Captain Manly]

Can you build one of those stealth pumps for market? Say for us long term starving '02 project artist like us?

 

Just wouldn't hurt to ask.

 

TIA
 

Justin 

[AceAndrew]

On 9/14/2019 at 9:42 PM, Captain Manly said:

Can you build one of those stealth pumps for market? Say for us long term starving '02 project artist like us?

 

Just wouldn't hurt to ask.

 

TIA
 

Justin 

 

Hey Justin,

 

I'd charge way too much for it, given the time(I don't have) to source bits.  However, it is really straight forward.  The trickiest bit can be getting an e30 fuel pump carrier and level sender...  however, they do pop up quite often.

https://www.r3vlimited.com/board/forum/e30-classified-forums/for-sale-wanted/parts-for-sale/9860220-caliper-sets-strut-housings-fuel-pump-housings-leftover-part-out

 

 

[chook]

Hey Andrew,

   Forgive me if I missed this somewhere but how does the radiator mount to the core support? I really like the radiator setup!

[AceAndrew]

Chook - there are threaded bosses on the end tanks.  I haven't committed to the exact mounting point yet.  It will rest on a rubber-lined bracket on the base.

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Update: Paint & Body

 

Happy, happy, happy days.  The car is back from Roy's body shop.  He and his guys did an absolutely amazing job.  The Taiga color turned out better than I could have hoped.  The car was kept as back up, so when the guys didn't have an insurance-related paint job, they'd work on the 2002.  They kind of adopted the car and put a ridiculous amount of hours into block sanding over the past months. 

 

A big pet peeve of mine on 2002 restorations is the sheet metal around the rear fender.  Even when new this area would be slightly bowed/squished and you could see it in reflections (this effect was exacerbated when the car was involved in a rear end collision).  The guys did a great job in massaging the metal around this area, resulting in a better-than-new uniform surface around the area.

 

At the end of the day we used PPG solvent-based paint and five coats of clear.  A little orange peel was purposefully left so that after the car is assembled I can go back and polish it to a mirror finish without worrying about assembly-related scratches.

 

Final Tally:  All the original body panels were used, including floor pans, nose, etc.  Even with the M20 trimming, this car has more original sheet metal than most other restorations I've tinkered on.

 

AdamsAutoSport_DianaV2_Paint1 by Adams Autosport, on Flickr

 

AdamsAutoSport_DianaV2_Paint3 by Adams Autosport, on Flickr

 

AdamsAutoSport_DianaV2_Paint2 by Adams Autosport, on Flickr

Edited October 26, 2019 by AceAndrew

[AceAndrew]

Interior/Upholstery:

 

The trunk is nearly done! 

 

The concept I've been bouncing around for a while was to create a quasi "up-rated" 2002 trunk that would have been in the same vein as the Diana's were.  I wanted to be careful though, as some "finished" trunks I've seen are a bit overdone to the point of appearing "new".  This meant retaining elephant skin but covering a bit more of the exposed body color, akin to how the E9 Coupe trunk looks.

 

 After the car was transported from the paint shop to CoupeKing, Benji (in-house upholsterer) started going it.  He was the wizard that made the dream a reality, cannot say enough good things about him and his work.  He made an angled back panel and sewed in cups for the shock towers.  Also covered were the recessed areas in the out rocker areas.  The finished product speaks for itself!

 

Last addition was the trunk mat Esty made back when she made the carpet.  The mat has been in storage for a few years, so it needs a bit of time with a steam cleaner before it's perfectly flat.  The Mercedes material is extremely difficult to photograph accurately, so I'm sorry for the color discrepancies.

 

IMG_0237 2 by Adams Autosport, on Flickr

 

IMG_0241 by Adams Autosport, on Flickr

 

IMG_0244 by Adams Autosport, on Flickr

 

Edited January 28, 2020 by AceAndrew

[Seth Horwitz]

It’s almost like you’re on a mission to make every other ‘02 look cheap. Looking good. 

[AceAndrew]

Lol, I'll take that as a compliment! The reality is that every step forward brings a feeling of relief.

[joysterm]

On 11/5/2019 at 12:59 PM, AceAndrew said:

Lol, I'll take that as a compliment! The reality is that every step forward brings a feeling of relief.

understated but very classy.....well done. 

[Streetcar]

Hats off to you sir, this is an amazing build.

 

Hey I'm wondering if the racing dynamics headers have clearance in an 02? The reason I ask is that the new IE ones look very similar and it says they don't fit m20 swapped 02s.

 

 

[AceAndrew]

Thank you, you are very kind!

 

As for the header fitment, no.  Unfortunately, they do not fit.  From the pictures Andrew T. sent to me, the pipe terminates right on the tie rod assembly.  However, he's taken up the reigns of doing a run specifically for 2002 swaps.  It isn't exactly public yet, but if you email IE, there's a "list" already started.

[02tradition]

On 4/11/2020 at 8:09 AM, Streetcar said:

Hats off to you sir, this is an amazing build.

 

Hey I'm wondering if the racing dynamics headers have clearance in an 02? The reason I ask is that the new IE ones look very similar and it says they don't fit m20 swapped 02s.

 

 

 

8 hours ago, AceAndrew said:

Thank you, you are very kind!

 

As for the header fitment, no.  Unfortunately, they do not fit.  From the pictures Andrew T. sent to me, the pipe terminates right on the tie rod assembly.  However, he's taken up the reigns of doing a run specifically for 2002 swaps.  It isn't exactly public yet, but if you email IE, there's a "list" already started.

Group buy will be in the for sale section in the coming days...