Source for flat lens H4s?

[Andy74tii]

Hi, is there a good source to get the old style flat lens (Hella) H4 headlights with replaceable bulbs? Thanks!

[c.d.iesel]

....so called 7" motorcycle head light -

non-legal for road use (ignore that part)

http://www.rallylights.com/

http://www.panteraplace.com/page157.htm

http://www.hella.com/produktion/HellaUSA/WebSite/Channels/Drivers/Tested_and_Approved.jsp

http://www.classicgarage.com/classicgarage/accessories-hella-lights-hella-fog---driving-lamps.html

http://www.ferraripartsexchange.com/headlights.htm

http://www.alfacybersite.com/ACSCibhl.html

[Gordon]

http://www.mesaperformance.com/

http://www.germansupply.com/home/customer/product.php?productid=17367

Don't get the DOT version, get the Euro spec version

G-Man

[schwarz75]

David can be contacted at:

http://www.vclassics.com/ojrallye.htm

located in Wisconsin

[roadhog0]

Summit also has them.

http://www.summitracing.com/parts/HLA-002395801/

[JohnP]

I have a pair of Bosch 7" headlights that are flat lensed with replacable H-4s. Looking to sell them. I replaced them with Cibies which are a bit convex.

[PAULTJENE]

how much $?

Can I plug and play in a 1976

[SteveJ]

Initial cost isn't too bad.

It really starts to add up later as you have to replace them one at a time when they get cracked from rocks. I just reached the point where I don't care. It's got a crack? Oh well.

It should be a straight plug in on a 76 as you already have a headlight relay for the circuit. As long as you go with a bulb at 55/60 or so, there should be no problems with the current draw. If you start going for higher output like the 100 watt lamps, then you should add in a separate wiring harness for the lights. The separate harness is not a bad idea even with the lower wattage lamps. You gotta remember you're dealing with 35 year old wires/connectors/switches.

[fiftytakedowns]

most of the ones pictured are curved lenses.

[John_in_VA]

(nt)

[fiftytakedowns]

how about links for flat lensed ones, almost all of those were rounded/curved

[Fishhead]

I have Hella's, Bosch and Stanley H-4 headlights and while they are not completely flat, but they are a lot less "bulbous" than the standard sealed beam headlights are.

[bill2002]

Check out the Euro Bosch H4s at The Bus Depot. $44.95 - for a pair! Also German H4 60/55w bulbs for $3.95 each. I had been looking at getting some Hella units from rallylights.com but I jumped on this deal when I was buying some parts for my '85 Westfalia camper.

http://www.busdepot.com

These replaced the 30 year old pitted and oxidized reflector Cibie Z-beams on my late '71 2002. Drove it last night and was so impressed what fresh headlights can do :-) I'm currently using the 39 year old stock wiring but I plan to upgrade to a new harness with separate relays for the high and low beam circuits.

These Bosch headlights have a much flatter profile than the Cibies, looking just as flat as the Hella H4s I put on the Vanagon years ago. They are labeled "Motorcycle" on the lens and they don't have the inner shield as most automobile H4 units do. Here's a link to more info. on sealed beam vs H4's and these specific Bosch headlights:

http://www.ratwell.com/technical/BoschH4.html

- Bill B.

Napa, CA

Current BMWs:

- late 1971 2002 - second owner - purchased Aug. 1979

- 1988 M6

Previously owned: 1969 2002, 1972 euro 3.0csi, 1982 633csi, 1982 r65LS

[fiftytakedowns]

do you have to change out hte whole bucket assembly if you want to go from the sealed beam to the h4s?

[bills2002]

According to several others on this site, you do not have to change the buckets.