All metal rocker arms

[Freddie]

Any info on the $2000 rockers Vac and Korman sell. Who makes them? do they work(not eat camshafts)? Any help would be great.

Fred

[kbmb02]

Lester Owen makes steel rockers (and mostly likely the ones you refer to) - I've done a bit of research, but found them too costly . . . for now I'm going either with Ireland's billet rockers or their new heavy-duty rocker (a beefed-up version of the factory design).

[TobyB]

Well, all rockers are all made of metal...

but the Brit ones are forged steel.

You only need them if you're spinning 8k with 13mm+ of lift....

the stock ones will survive up to about 7500 with sane cams,

the billet will go further with less sane profiles...

and if you're breaking anything at this point, you

really need to know a lot about your spring pressures and

ramp angles. The arms don't like floating AT ALL!

t

[bmw1602.com]

how about the new Ireland ones.....look like stock but beefier. they also have billet alum. versions.....

[Freddie]

I run a Schrick 316 cam and matching Schrick springs.I've busted a handfull of stock arms. I heard alot over the years about the steel rockers and never heard anything bad. Unlike almost all the aftermarket ones availible. Just tired of playing around. I would rather pay $2000 and not worry about it anymore!! If they work?

[TobyB]

They do work. There were horror stories a few years ago

about the billet aluminum lash pad material, but the latest is that it's

pretty well sorted.

I'm saddened to hear that you're having trouble with the 316, as

that's the profile that I'd like to run.

What springs are you using?

t

[tjones02]

Ok, I did this whole search yesterday at lunch and even sent it off to you but it got lost in the mix somehow... So here it goes again...

L.H. Owen is the maker of the steel rocker arms... I saw one of the Elva Mark 7 or 8's at the Wine Country Classic with L.H. Owen valve cover and intake manifolds on the M10 in it... Asked the guy about them and he said that L.H. Owen has been building and racing BMWs out of England since the mid 60's... His motor has never had a rocker failure.....

The Cunningham and Brecht Historic Trans-Am cars all use em'... to 8200RPM.

I believe Bill Watson has built a few motors with them.... Maybe Terry Tinney has them in Jeff Hecox motor too??

Eric Kerman from Long Island NY has a long history of building excellent M10 motors... I tried a Google search to find his contact info but came up w/ nothing. He did used to sell stroker M10 motors out of the Roundel classifides a few years ago...

I found this contact info..... for L.H. Owen

L.H. Owen Automotive

Oakleigh

Oakengates Rd.

Donnington

Telford

TF2 7LQ

Tel 01952 616846

Fax 01952 620058

..... here on Jenvey's site.

http://www.jenvey.co.uk/Specials/Specs.htm

This informative thread came up from a "steel rocker arms bmw owen" Google search...

http://www.ten-tenths.com/forum/showthread.php?t=78600'>http://www.ten-tenths.com/forum/showthread.php?t=78600

Then there's lots of info about M10 race motors from http://www.ten-tenths.com if you type "bmw m10 site:http://www.ten-tenths.com" into google...

HTH

[Freddie]

Thanks Tom sent you an e-mail. I use Schricks valve springs that they sell in the engine.

[allbim]

Eric Kermans email adress is edk40@aol.com

[CamB]

This informative thread came up from a "steel rocker arms bmw owen" Google search...

http://www.ten-tenths.com/forum/showthread.php?t=78600'>http://www.ten-tenths.com/forum/showthread.php?t=78600

Then there's lots of info about M10 race motors from http://www.ten-tenths.com if you type "bmw m10 site:http://www.ten-tenths.com" into google...

HTH

There is also further info from the same poster on ten-tenths - graham bahr - on http://www.turbosport.co.uk/. You can search the forum if you register.

[CamB]

I'll dig up an old thread...

... have just come across this - apparently Schrick are making steel rockers (at something like US$240 each.

Excuse the poor Swedish translation (not that I speak a word of Swedish myself):

http://translate.google.co.nz/translate?prev=hp&hl=en&js=n&u=http%3A%2F%2Fwww.motornord.se%2Fsystem%2Fwebshop.asp%3FHID%3D256%26FID%3D313%26HSID%3D3054&sl=sv&tl=en

[BillWilliams]

He is doing investments now, no motors.

[Robert]

Anyone tried these steel rockers?

Going to use them my self, hope they wont eat my motorsport camshaft

Have tried alot of diffrent rockers and the billet PPM (.au ones) and they had probs with the pads.

Also seen japanese guy who made rockers without pads.

[Tommy]

Oh, you've tried PPM's and they are wearing out too. Good to hear - well not good, but I'm glad to know that. I have Ireland/(Skidmark original style) ones that are toast.

Sorry I can't help you with the steel ones. I haven't heard bad things about them but not many have experience. Where did you get those?

Tommy

[tjones02]

Well, apparently Perry's "Skidmark" ones have been fixed so they don't kill cams.... And Ireland's have updated rocker pads as well.

Fred went with Ireland's updated ones and they are working well.