2002 Turbo Story - Myth or Real ??

[Jean-Marc]

I've ordered the certificate to BMW Classic, I'm waiting patiently...

 

.....We too Smonter !!! Any news ?

VIN is available on the car, ....

VIN is also mentionned on the appropriate official documents of the car and it is required to request the BMW certificate

Myth or real ???

[smonter]

work in progress. the question is: should I paint it in black again or should I repaint it in polaris?

[Conserv]

For a car as collectible, and collected, as a factory turbo, I'd return it to its original color. And, hey, Polaris ain't all bad!

Steve

[LarsAlpina]

Have once in the 90s (maybe late 80s) seen a red turbo. Was already in bad conditions then and had sometimes been resprayed in different color.

 

But original first layer of paint from factory on was red.

 

 

Regards, Lars.

Edited November 23, 2013 by LarsAlpina

[Sneeb]

Almost looks like it could have been white underneath. Seems like there is a line of white at the edge of the chips in the red paint and a white patch near the rivet hole nearest to the top of the rusty area. Unless it is a sealer or light color primer or something bmw was putting on cars back then. Or it could just be a glare in the photo.

[dbmw2002]

Like Mick sings, Paint it Black, and keep her............

[LarsAlpina]

Sneeb,

 

believe me: The turbo I speak of was red from factory on.

 

Regards, Lars.

[adamm]

There's a black turbo in the UK. My mechanic who looks after many historic road and race BMWs (ex Prodrive, Sytner, Nick Whale...) says it's a genuine factory car (colour, build etc). I saw it once in Somerset randomly in a car park, must be going back 15 years or so now. There's surely far too much anecdotal evidence that supports one or two cars at least left the factory in 'non standard' colours?

[bgspanel]

As far as the paintings are concerned it is sure that customer wishes had been taken into account. Deviations from the official colours POLARIS and CHAMONIX were available. The colours were defined by a code and that is why some of them are not surely cleared up. In any case there were several surprising discoveries:

 

CHAMONIX (white) 1049 POLARIS (silvermetallic) 615 TAIGA (greenmetallic) 1 SCHWARZ (black) 1 unsolved code 5 missing registrations 1 total 1672

A second delivery book, unfortunately incomplete, revealed five unexpected colours. Their number fitted to the number of unidentified codes in book No. 1:

 

TAMPICO (beige) 1 INKA (orange) 1 PASTELLBLAU (blue)....... 1 JADEGRÜN (green) 1 VERONA (red) 1

Finally I would like to thank the employees of the historical archives for their help and support and the BMW AG for keeping the written and printed history of our cars.

Norbert Gruenberger

[02Les]

As far as the paintings are concerned it is sure that customer wishes had been taken into account. Deviations from the official colours POLARIS and CHAMONIX were available. The colours were defined by a code and that is why some of them are not surely cleared up. In any case there were several surprising discoveries:

 

CHAMONIX (white) 1049 POLARIS (silvermetallic) 615 TAIGA (greenmetallic) 1 SCHWARZ (black) 1 unsolved code 5 missing registrations 1 total 1672

A second delivery book, unfortunately incomplete, revealed five unexpected colours. Their number fitted to the number of unidentified codes in book No. 1:

 

TAMPICO (beige) 1 INKA (orange) 1 PASTELLBLAU (blue)....... 1 JADEGRÜN (green) 1 VERONA (red) 1

Finally I would like to thank the employees of the historical archives for their help and support and the BMW AG for keeping the written and printed history of our cars.

Norbert Gruenberger

Over the years, I have collected VINs as, basically, a pastime.

From Norbert, Jordan Kahrs, and others, I have the following "stated" info on special colour Turbos. I would appreciate knowing any errors and additional info.

4290528 Inka

4290733 Schwarz

4291066 Taiga

4291334 Verona

4291461 Tampico

4291491 Schwarz

4291492 ? special colour

4291566 Pastelblau

4291576 Jadegrün

4291600 ? special colour

 

Also curious to know the VIN of Mr. smonter's Turbo that restarted this thread off again.

[smonter]

The VINner issssssss........4290559

and I'll repaint it black.

[smonter]

as you can see, I'm working on it, cause there are little imperfections on body, there were double headlights and a profile to hold rear spoiler etc.

[02Les]

The VINner issssssss........4290559

and I'll repaint it black.

Interesting!!!

 

The pics below are from 2002AD's website back in 2008. The VIN was stated as 4290559.

Had moulded flares which (so I'm informed) were factory for the Japan market.

[smonter]

Interesting!!!

 

The pics below are from 2002AD's website back in 2008. The VIN was stated as 4290559.

Had moulded flares which (so I'm informed) were factory for the Japan market.

It's surely wrong, that car has left hand drive, in Japan they have right hand drive. Another thing is the muffler, that car has for sure a VIN over 1312, that has center muffler, lower VIN's has right corner muffler. Steering wheel is not original and mirrors...are very bad!

I know the history of my car from his born to present and I have docs, I'm sure that mine is 559. Last owner owned it since 1983.

I think that can be 1559...

[Conserv]

It's surely wrong, that car has left hand drive, in Japan they have right hand drive. Another thing is the muffler, that car has for sure a VIN over 1312, that has center muffler, lower VIN's has right corner muffler. Steering wheel is not original and mirrors...are very bad!

I know the history of my car from his born to present and I have docs, I'm sure that mine is 559. Last owner owned it since 1983.

I think that can be 1559...

This is not a comment on whether your car is the same as the 2002AD car, but I do believe that Japanese-market factory turbos -- for whatever reason -- were left-hand drive. In addition, those twin hood-mounted mirrors are/were common on Japanese cars, including the factory turbos.

You know for a fact, based on BMW Archives, that your car, 4290559, was originally Polaris. If it recently went through a "Chamonix phase," you'd probably find evidence of it on the car. Les is only reporting what appeared on the 2002AD site.

Regards,

Steve

Edited November 29, 2013 by Conserv