RIMS Cromodoras/campys fitment

[Dread2002]

Hello friends,

(i'll have an update on my front end soon!)

 

Ok, so, RIMS!

I've been shopping for some new shoes for my car and I fell in love the the Cromodora cd40 look! Though, it seems the lug holes range can be anything in between 4x98 and 4x114. 

I have the option to purchase a set of Cromodoras one listed as 4x114 and the other 4x98. (I've asked for pictures showing the distance on each to confirm these distances.)

Can these wheels really come in different lug patterns? beyond that, what do I need to do to get these to fit on my car. 

 

I have a base 73' non-tii 2002. I've upgraded the front end with Blunttechs suspension kit (H&R springs) and I've also done the Volvo/e21 front brake upgrade.

 

any information y'all can give me on Cromodora fitment, that would be amazing.

 

besides all my concerns with the cromodora fitment, the seller who has the 4x98 ones also has a set of 4 spoke Campys, what do you guys think of the condition? will they clean up nicely?

 

what's not pictured in this post is the 4x114 Cromodoras, they look like they're in great condition! 

 

 

the last picture is just a set of e21 wheels the seller with the 4x98 Cromodoras has that i might pick up.(3 sets of wheels in 1 trip, it can't get better than that, right?)

Edited October 16, 2022 by Dread2002
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[Gordon]

4X98 is for an Italian car (Fiat, Alfa Romeo) fitment. 4X108 fits the following cars.  Keep looking until you find the right size  (4X100). Get the E21 wheels, they look great on a 2002. 

 

4x108 - Bolt pattern, what cars have 4x108 wheels? 126 found

SIZEMYWHEELS.COM

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4x108 bolt pattern - found 126. Which vehicles use the 4x108 bolt pattern on their wheels?

 

 

[Gordon]

Forgot to mention that if the Campy's or Cromodora's are old school and made of magnesium,  good luck on finding a wheel shop that will work on them. AMHIK, it's a lost art.  There are restoration shops for Italian exotic sports cars that have wheel shops they farm out the wheel work to, but you need real deep pockets for their services.  

[Dread2002]

1 minute ago, Gordon said:

Forgot to mention that if the Campy's or Cromodora's are old school and made of magnesium,  good luck on finding a wheel shop that will work on them. AMHIK, it's a lost art.  There are restoration shops for Italian exotic sports cars that have wheel shops they farm out the wheel work to, but you need real deep pockets for their services.  

Even more steps to wear these boots. . .I'm starting to think I should put my cromodora dreams to rest.

However, the 4x114 cromodoras (not pictured) we're bolted onto a 1970 2002 so I might be in luck there. 

[bob02]

I have CD 40's(4x100) on my car with 205/60 tires and can tell you you you will likely have to roll the front and rear fenders. They have been the single best upgrade to my car. With toyo proxes ra1 tires, they weigh 28.5 pounds, and the lightness really wakes up the suspension. Good luck with your search, they're out there!

 

 Bob

[Dread2002]

14 minutes ago, bob02 said:

I have CD 40's(4x100) on my car with 205/60 tires and can tell you you you will likely have to roll the front and rear fenders. They have been the single best upgrade to my car. With toyo proxes ra1 tires, they weigh 28.5 pounds, and the lightness really wakes up the suspension. Good luck with your search, they're out there!

 

 Bob

Music to my ears! Thank you for the information Bob! If I may ask a question, besides rolling the fenders, do you think some CD40s(4x100) will fit on my car with my, what I believe to be a common, setup? Non-tii, H&R springs(1.5 in. lower than the stock springs) and the e21/vented brake upgrade.

 

[Son of Marty]

1 hour ago, Dread2002 said:

However, the 4x114 cromodoras (not pictured) we're bolted onto a 1970 2002 so I might be in luck there. 

Unless he redrilled the hubs (if there's room to do 114) that's bull s%it. The stud location is set, there's no way to fudge it. Having your wheels firmly mounted is one of those things that let you sleep at night.

[Dread2002]

3 minutes ago, Son of Marty said:

Unless he redrilled the hubs (if there's room to do 114) that's bull s%it. The stud location is set, there's no way to fudge it. Having your wheels firmly mounted is one of those things that let you sleep at night.

Thee bull s%it was right, he got back to me, his cd40s are 4x100, I don't know why his listing said 114. I'll have to ask. But looks like I'm in luck

[Son of Marty]

Good deal.

[Conserv]

3 hours ago, Dread2002 said:

 

… However, the 4x114 cromodoras (not pictured) we're bolted onto a 1970 2002 so I might be in luck there…

 

Then either (a.) they were not 4 x 114 rims or (b.) the ‘02 did not have factory ‘02 hubs.

 

Like @Gordon said, find yourself a set of 4 x 100 rims. Step one: buy yourself a PCD measurement tool (screen shot of eBay listings below). They’re inexpensive and a great starting point in evaluating rims for your ‘02.

 

Then learn how to calculate offset: it’s very easy. Together, PCD and offset (a.k.a., ET) will tell you whether a rim is likely to work on your ‘02.

 

Regards,

 

Steve

 

 

[uai]

I would really be interested in the four spoke campys if they're 4x100
Can you bring me in contact with the seller?

Edited October 17, 2022 by uai

[bob02]

15 hours ago, Dread2002 said:

Music to my ears! Thank you for the information Bob! If I may ask a question, besides rolling the fenders, do you think some CD40s(4x100) will fit on my car with my, what I believe to be a common, setup? Non-tii, H&R springs(1.5 in. lower than the stock springs) and the e21/vented brake upgrade.

 

My car is set up similar to yours, H&R sport springs, bilstein sports and e21/Volvo ATE calipers. If you're in the bay area, you are welcome to come on over and get a better idea of what it will take to make them fit. It's all about taking your time with the fender roller.

 

 Bob

[Dread2002]

9 hours ago, bob02 said:

My car is set up similar to yours, H&R sport springs, bilstein sports and e21/Volvo ATE calipers. If you're in the bay area, you are welcome to come on over and get a better idea of what it will take to make them fit. It's all about taking your time with the fender roller.

 

 Bob

Thanks Bob, but I couldn't be any further away. I'm over here in Jersey. But next time I'm in Cali I'll take you up on that. 

I've decided to get the campys and 320 wheels, they're local(ish) and it's too good a deal to pass up. The CD40s will have to wait until I can see them in person.

[Tbone1209]

Having just gone through a big wheel hunt with twist and turns, make sure the Campy wheels are 4x100. They made many more sets in 4x98 and 4x114 than they did in 4x100 for BMW so they are much harder to come by. From what I learned on the forum here, Campy wheels arent actually Magnesium. They are a blend of mag/alloy so with care and proper storage are fine with age. If left outside they can carrode and require quite a bit of work. Those look like they've not been treated very well so check them closely. My 2 cents 

[uai]

4 hours ago, Tbone1209 said:

From what I learned on the forum here, Campy wheels arent actually Magnesium. They are a blend of mag/alloy so with care and proper storage are fine with age.

No. Some are Electron (>=90%Mg, >9% Al) others are just normal alloy. Every Rim (unless it's billet) will probably be a blend of AL/Mg (and other Zn, Cu, Si etc..) Scales will tell what you've got.
However the "usual" ragnos are not Electron, the 7x13 40549 and 5,5x13 40512 are Electron.

Edited October 18, 2022 by uai