Subframe bushing inserts needed.

[Golfcar]

Looking for a pair of subframe inserts 

Blunttech is out of stock. 

Ireland doesn't even show them. 

Wegweiser site won't load. 

 

Thanks, 

Gary 

 

[halboyles]

I've got a few.  Are you looking for new or used in good condition?

[Golfcar]

I would prefer new. 

Atlanta

 

[Tdh]

https://www.prothanesuspensionparts.com/products/bmw_2002_1971

[PaulTWinterton]

Isn't this a case where:
rubber = comfort

urethane = stiffness for racing

 

Have you tried your local BMW dealership?  Call them with the part# in hand.

Edited October 23, 2020 by PaulTWinterton

['76mintgrün'02]

4 minutes ago, PaulTWinterton said:

Isn't this a case where:
rubber = comfort

urethane = stiffness for racing

 

that depends on what he meant by "inserts."

 

these only come in Polyurethane.

https://www.prothanesuspensionparts.com/3101

[PaulTWinterton]

2 minutes ago, '76mintgrün'02 said:

these only come in Polyurethane.

 

Good morning Tom.  I don't know what those are.

[jireland2002]

We have about 50 set in stock.  IE Motorsport

['76mintgrün'02]

Those get inserted into the large can-style rear sub-frame mounts to add stiffness, by filling the voids in the rubber.

 

They sort of bridge the gap in the Poly vs Rubber debate.

 

 

[Golfcar]

My understanding is that when BMW made a run on the big subframe bushings they missed the boat on hardness. 

This is what I've been told. 

I have new OEM bushings and some say they will not last long. 

I searched last night and found some references to this but hard to pin down if this is old info as in 5 years or more. 

Hopefully BMW was made aware of this and the current supply of bushings if the right hardness? 

Love to hear that as I'm ready to continue my rear subframe assembly. Other thread on my subframe work. 

This is a Tii and not going to urethane. A driver car that I want to keep close to stock. 

It's a numbers matching car with a 4 speed. 

Want it to continue as a survivor. 

 

 

[jireland2002]

The latest rear subframe mounts from the BMW dealer are VERY soft rubber.  In my opinion much softer than from years ago.  Soft mounts allow the rear subframe to move under lateral loads.  The result is rear steer.  The car feels like the rear end is loose (oversteer) at corner entry.  After it takes a set the remainder of the corner feels mostly ok, but the initial unsettled handling makes most drivers uncomfortable.  I personally would not use the current stock of factory rubber subframe mounts without filling the voids.

 

[PaulTWinterton]

2 hours ago, m5bb said:

This is a Tii and not going to urethane. A driver car that I want to keep close to stock.

 

Sounds like IE (above) has the answer.  Fill the voids.  Remove for originality.

 

Funny, I bought subframe mounts from the dealer 5 years ago and they sat on the bench waiting for me to get the enthusiasm to refresh the subframe.  Hopefully they were old enough to be firm as opposed to soft.  I haven't noticed any issues.

[NYNick]

3 hours ago, '76mintgrün'02 said:

 

that depends on what he meant by "inserts."

 

these only come in Polyurethane.

https://www.prothanesuspensionparts.com/3101

I put these in my rear carrier bushings when refreshing my entire subframe and suspension. The only other urethane parts I used were for the sway bars, but I also upgraded my shocks, springs and every other replaceable rubber bit.

 

I absolutely love the way my car rides and handles. Sporty as hell without and harshness. 

[maikell77]

I highly reccomend the solid rubber "motorsports" mounts.  They aren't as harsh as the poly, not as soft as the rubber, and not as tacked together as the insets. 

 

https://www.wallothnesch.com/en/rubber-support-motorsport-version-solid-rubber-unit-fits-for-left-and-right-and-for-all-models-33-18-09.html

[Golfcar]

Got it done. 

A local friend had the inserts. 

Yes, the W&N would have been the best way to go if I known. 

Gary