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2002 LED Headlight upgrade?

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I have used Anzo 7" round LED headlights. (thank you Jeep community) Some like, some hate the bar in the middle. The overall light output is pretty good, but not "oh my gosh this is a life changer". 

No wiring or adapter changes needed at all. Plugged in to the stock connectors. 

 

I haven't had a chance to drive my car much at night, but when my car returns, I will take a few pictures to see if there is an obnoxious pattern or not. The short time I did have them on, they were great on high beam. No flicker at all. At least there is a considerable savings in amp draw on my electrical system, but I am not sure if it is worth the investment yet. IMG_1151.thumb.jpg.60ea5100f774100b82fa742422529d9d.jpgIMG_1175.thumb.jpg.1c113963337f42326cd76b8a23dd9b08.jpg817BfIdJzYL._SL1500_.thumb.jpg.41ac4d625ada3cf3bfefa82c189829ea.jpg

 

 

 

 

 

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Go old school Cibie . Order with the City light option, great for driving at dusk.   Check Daniel Stern's web page, he is a lighting engineer and knows his stuff.   https://www.dan

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Glad you're happy with that. Here's what Hella H4's pattern looks like with traditional bulbs. Note the well-defined edges/cutoffs.   Cheers,    

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What I always say in these threads: it's fine as long as you get new housings with optics that are matched to the LED light sources in them, but please don't go popping those Chinese H4-style LED 'bul

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I get it that modern lighting is so much better, but I don't know if I can get on the band wagon yet.

My 73 2002 has cheap sealed beams with a brunt out high beam right now. So great time to upgrade.

Leaning towards just doing the Cibie upgrade. Most modern lights just look so out of place on that 

beautiful front end to me.

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On 5/21/2019 at 1:33 PM, irdave said:

Has anybody actually tried the JW Speaker headlights?

 

I've seen them in real life - on a Jeep - and they're bright and the light pattern is very nice.  The look is kinda busy, though, for a classic looking 2002.  But, perhaps they'd be OK on a modded 2002, like your M2. 

 

Despite the nice pattern, I didn't shell out the $$$ for JWs for my Jeep.  At the time, they were $400+ each, and that was too much for me.  I bought some KCs, for about $250 each.  The light pattern on them is OK, not great, but they do the job better than the stock candles.

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12 hours ago, g_force said:

 

I've seen them in real life - on a Jeep - and they're bright and the light pattern is very nice.  The look is kinda busy, though, for a classic looking 2002.  But, perhaps they'd be OK on a modded 2002, like your M2. 

 

Despite the nice pattern, I didn't shell out the $$$ for JWs for my Jeep.  At the time, they were $400+ each, and that was too much for me.  I bought some KCs, for about $250 each.  The light pattern on them is OK, not great, but they do the job better than the stock candles.

 

Yeah, even now at $300 a piece they're still pretty pricey, even if they are OE on McLaren.

 

I just ordered some more of these... https://www.superbrightleds.com/moreinfo/led-headlight-bulbs-conversion-kits/h4-led-headlight-conversion-kit-with-aluminum-finned-heat-sinks-6000-lumensset/4314/9633/

 

I know they're considered demon-spawn by some, but in the H4 buckets on the tii (Marchal Cateye IODE) they were awesome- super sharp cut off on low beam and lit up the world on hi, and for $89 ($80 right now on sale) they're tough to pass up.  I'll see how they are with the Hellas on the M2.

Dave.

'76, totally stock. Completely.

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On 5/22/2019 at 12:09 PM, jp5Touring said:

Leaning towards just doing the Cibie upgrade. Most modern lights just look so out of place

Independent of whether you like/dislike the look of modern LED lights, I can pretty much guarantee that you will be extremely happy with the Cibies.  Look great, absolutely wonderful beam pattern, and H4s are cheap, widely available, and plenty bright.  Again, not really arguing for them over LEDs per se, just that going from sealeds to Cibies is almost literally night and day!

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6 hours ago, AustrianVespaGuy said:

I find that surprising, but that's definitely good news! Any chance for pictures of the pattern? Especially comparing how they perform back to back between the Marchas and Hellas I think would be very informative!

 

I knew I could tease you out with that!  :)

 

The Marchals are gone- in GA? now?  Awesome lights.  I'll see what I can do about the Hellas.  Honestly I expect the same...  (And 6,000 lumens...)

Dave.

'76, totally stock. Completely.

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4 hours ago, AustrianVespaGuy said:

Hey would be great if we could have a verified known-good combination of bulbs and housings for whenever this topic comes up again in the future!

 

I think ‘known good’ is the problem. Too subjective and the main issue seems to be what others think as they face your headlamps on a dark street when you are supposed to have them dipped.

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13 hours ago, Simeon said:

 

I think ‘known good’ is the problem. Too subjective and the main issue seems to be what others think as they face your headlamps on a dark street when you are supposed to have them dipped.

 

I think this is what we worry about, but that most of the entire rest of the population doesn't care about at all.  Around here (almost Wyoming) there are so many big trucks with huge lights- I kinda' don't really care.  I still need to see how the bulbs are in the Hellas, but I never got flashed with the old set up from someone thinking I had the high beams on.  And I'm not opposed to drilling for a city light.

 

I prefer the cleaner look of the front of the car without all the driving lights, but still need to see well at night- we have lots of deer in the evening / early morning.

Dave.

'76, totally stock. Completely.

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Here is a video of a decent review of LED 7 inch headlights. 

Don't get confused with the target practice clip in the beginning. (I was for a second). 

 

 

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Go old school Cibie . Order with the City light option, great for driving at dusk.

 

Check Daniel Stern's web page, he is a lighting engineer and knows his stuff.

 

https://www.danielsternlighting.com/products/products.html

 

Lots of crap out there that is just plain dangerous.

 

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1 minute ago, jp5Touring said:

What exactly is the City light ?

 

 

It’s a 5 watt side light bulb built into the main light. Gives a lower level of illumination. 

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Carbs: They're necessary and barely controlled fuel leaks that sometimes match the air passing through them.

My build blog:http://www.bmw2002faq.com/blog/163-simeons-blog/

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