VIN Question, trying to find period correct part

[Driv3r]

Q1.

 

My 73 tii (275xxxx) is listed in german parts catalogue under 71 tii. 

 

 

Email reply from BMW Group:

 

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Thank you for your email.

The BMW 2002 tii rhd VIN 275xxxx was manufactured on March 12th, 1973 and delivered on March 19th, 1973 to the British Importer BMW London Ltd. 

We hope this information is helpful for you.

Yours sincerely,

Julia Oberndörfer

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Q2.

 

I dont have a bulb or any electrical wiring on my heater control levers. Looking at realoem (car code 2582) or the German catalogue, 64/7 shows bulb wiring but 64/8 doesn't. Was the bulb wiring only installed on US model cars?

 

Cheers

 

 

 

Edited August 22, 2019 by Driv3r

[Conserv]

I don't have an answer for your question, but please note that the "Modell 71" refers to the general round taillight model (not a given model year) that began with cars manufactured April 1971 and continued through July 1973, when round taillight production ceased.  The Modell 71 was replaced by the "Modell 73", which most of us know as the square taillight. 

 

I don't know the conventions of model years for U.K.-delivered cars, but in the U.S. there are three model years WITHIN the "Modell 71" designation:

 

(1.) late 1971,

(2.) all 1972, and

(3.) all 1973.

 

Regards,

 

Steve

 

Edited November 7, 2016 by Conserv

[Driv3r]

Thanks Steve that make sense. Cheers

[Simeon]

My Mar 73 non tii doesn't have lighting for the heater levers. 

 

Do you have the correct wiring diagram for your car? The pdfs on the tii register site are pretty comprehensive. 

[Driv3r]

My Mar 73 non tii doesn't have lighting for the heater levers. 

 

Do you have the correct wiring diagram for your car? The pdfs on the tii register site are pretty comprehensive. 

Yes I used the same pdf, 64/7 has lights but 64/8 doesn't. I was actually going to add lights but didn't know 73 also came with it. Maybe only on US cars.

Cheers

[jgerock]

My tii has the lights (May 30,1973).  Keep in mind that a PO may have swapped out  things over the years. 

[Driv3r]

My tii has the lights (May 30,1973).  Keep in mind that a PO may have swapped out  things over the years. 

Maybe but the part diagram for 73 Tii has two version, one with lights and one without. (64/7 & 64/8).

Cheers


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[JohnH]

My RHD Modell 71 tii 2751928 build date May 1973 does not have illuminated leavers.

 

Never get confused by the strange US model (marketing) year syndrome. What you need are build dates or production model codes. Nothing else matters.  

 

I think the problem with the parts manuals are that they are updated pages. the Tii register parts manual shows  64/7 date 12/75 and 64/8 as 7/75 where as, if you look ate the earlier parts manuals (together with a huge amount of other info) available on https://bmw-grouparchiv.de/research/  you will see corresponding pages 64/6 dated 6/73 and 64/7 as 6/73 and in another manual for pages 64/7 and 64/8 as 3/78. I think what I'm trying to say is the pages get update inaccurately. 

[Driv3r]

1 hour ago, JohnH said:

if you look ate the earlier parts manuals (together with a huge amount of other info) available on https://bmw-grouparchiv.de/research/ 

 Thanks John, I cant seem to be able to locate the earlier manual on that link. Would you have a direct link to the source?

 

Cheers

[JohnH]

Its a standard flaky Deutsch type site. If you look down the bottom of the page you will see an option for Englisch. Click that and you will see the Search option at the top. Hover over that and select Quicksearch and enter +Parts blank +Catalogue. Scroll down. Only the ones with pictures are any good. I could only find a couple of sets of 02 parts catalogues. You can also find +Owner's blank +Handbook, which should please a few people.

[Mike Self]

If your car has the three lever heater controls (two on the left for upper or lower outlet flaps, one on the right for temperature) they won't be illuminated.  Four lever controls (the fourth lever, on the right controls the heater blower motor) are illuminated, at least on US spec cars.  

 

The factory switched to four lever controls (again, at least on US spec cars) sometime during model year 1972; a quick perusal of the factory parts book will give you the exact changeover VIN.  My Dec 72 production carbureted US 2002 has four lighted levers for the heater controls.  

 

Your VIN indicates a RHD 2002tii and BMW Classic identifies it as having been manufactured about mid-production year in 1973; apparently they didn't adapt the lighted heater controls on Euro cars at the same time they did on US cars.  Perhaps the lights on US cars were to satisfy a Federal safety requirement that didn't apply to Euro cars.   But no US cars with three heater levers had them illuminated.  What's your setup?

 

mike

[Driv3r]

2 minutes ago, mike said:

What's your setup?

 

Thanks Mike, I've got 2 & 1 levers and plates are in chrome. Cheers

[Mike Self]

Sounds as if BMW used the three lever, non-illuminated heater controls on Euro cars for some time after they were discontinued on US cars in favor of four lever, illuminated controls.  Didn't realize that.

 

You learn something every day on this board.

 

mike

[jgerock]

My April 71 2002 had the "Chrome" plated heater covers - not the commonly found satin finish ones. Weird how BMW used their stockpiles of parts.

Here is one of my heater controls on the 73tii (lighted type)

Early picture of the lighted lever assembly from the 73

The crafty Germans had replaceable inserts for the dash lever controls - you can mix/match languages and lever positions (or make your own labels like SUPER HOT, SHOE MELT, FROSTY, NICHT, etc.)

 

Edited November 9, 2016 by jgerock

[Driv3r]

Yes I guess that's where you would need light to illuminate those texts. To be honest I like the earlier chrome plates. For me, it gives more classic look than the 80s looking facia. [emoji6]