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Well the time has come to share with everyone the latest treasure I found and MADE SOMEONE ELSE BUY! Here's the story: A friend had rescused this car 6 or 7 years ago from a bodyshop outside of Phila, PA. It had gone in for a resto 25 years ago or so. There was some sort of miscommunication along the way as the owner wanted to spend x and the bodyshop wanted to charge y. So, the car sat. And sat. And sat some more. Somehow it made its way online and this guy bought it. He is a former '02 owner, but is really devoted to E30's. He dabbled for the last few years on little things but the project never really got off the ground. Fast forward to Thanksgiving day when I saw him and he indicated that he wanted to finally sell it off. Also enter Chris Isaacson, a.k.a Stone, from Stone Racing. His Targa, as some of you know, was hit on the street last year. He has a lot of insurance money burning a hole in his pocket and one thing let to another, and guess what? A deal was done. This '74Tii was supposedly one of the last to come of the production line. 2782913. I have attached some photos and Chris will tell you the rest and fill in some blanks. These photos are from last night when we picked up the shell.

Neal Friedant

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'72Tii

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Looks like a real solid starting point. Good find, and good luck with the resto.

Bob Napier

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Hi,

Neal and i are sharing this new user name

so we cant post stuff that we usually do

together. besides i never remember to bring

or use my camera and neal is much better

at schmoozing while i pour over the cars

at a much faster rate. this way you guys and

girls get a two sided review of the same cars

and events.

neal missed some points that i will add.

we looked at this car 5 years ago when the

PO had parts spread over an ENTIRE basement

and a garage. while we three spoke about the

car body in the garage i also stood there seperating

piles of hardware and components in to groups

that i was familiar with. the owner looked over and

asked what i was doing. i said well these piles go

together on the car like doors or engine and trans.

Five years later the pile were in the same place.

chris

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Cool stuff Neil and Chris. Good to team up.

Another Tii saved. Nice!

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Hi,

more, info. the car came with alot of new parts and

garage dust. man do i look funny in the pictures. last night i went for the third trip to collect the rest of the car. shell w/motor hood

and MORE boxes of loose parts. so i had to connect

the steering parts just to get it on the trailer. boy

did we spend alot of time BS about cars and people.

i brought home all the panels and washed them off, then i cover

most of them with collision wrapping paper. so now

begins a documentation of disassembly and rebuild

of the car. i think that neal and i will move over to the

projects forum with it soon. don't think he is just going

along for the ride. i WILL make him help me finish this car

in time to drive it to the vintage in april.

chris

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nice!

you simply MUST leave the stylin' "silverwall" tires on it for the drive to vintage...;-)

I believe those could be referred to as "Maypops", as in they may pop at any time.

You two Philly guys are good at sniffing up the '02's.

Jim

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..........and now for a bit of history.......

BMW MANUFACTURED 2133 '74 US spec cars. BUT, Hoffman SOLD only 2063 here in the US. (Hell, they $old more Por$che 911'$ than that!!)

As if you didn't already know it, you've got a rare car. Even rarer in Black.

Good work.

mac.

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HI,

short note, the color of the car

was told to us to be fjord blue. OG.

i will look at the tunnel when the

motor comes out.

chris

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BTW, according to the factory parts book, the last US spec tii was VIN 2782928, so yours is one of the last dozen or so built!. Nice find.

cheers

mike

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Update:

Hi,

so i started to work on the car. first i rolled it off

the trailer and found out that the brakes are not

at all. i took apart the rear brakes and found

none. and so began the sorting and boxing of six

crates of new and used parts. I did find all the new

rear brakes except for the cables which i bought.

so now the car stays in one place with the parking

brake on. so, on from there i am finding that almost

any part that is installed is either on the wrong side,

upside down, or does not have all the pieces that

it should have.

So to make it better for me i am going to just

break it down as far as i can, to it's basic body, and

then build back up from there. i took pictures

of alot of recent work but will have to get them loaded.

i spun the car around to be face out of the shop.

then i pulled the trans, and then the motor from the

top.

i found a trans that was installed with only part of the shift tower

and the motor is missing many of the bolts that hold the whole

mess together. i did find a NEW flywheel, never seen one before,

which had a new disc and a USED pressure plate, what?

so the steering was visible once the motor was out.

steering box loose, the rag joint has no hardware, the

foot pedal box fell out about ten minutes after the motor

was out and ALL the brake lines have been bent out of the way

so that someone was able to screw up even more shit.

i just realized that i am ranting.

i need to get Neal over to help me and document some

of this circus i have taken on.

so i have taken some time to start but it looks like a long road.

i have broken down more than 50 2002's. now i have to work

in the opposite direction.

stone

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I know what that's like! I bought a 73 Suzuki TS125 in boxes that way... My trucks not much better. If a bolt can be missing it is, and if it's possible to jerry rig, it is... Best of luck to ya mate!!!

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When the bones are good, ie no rust everything else is easy, just don your Nazi cap, think like a German and it all goes together like a jig saw puzzle, one piece at a time, sometimes easier when someone botches it, you start from scratch, cut a check and its done right the first time, not like some restos dealin with someone elses crap, Ill take a survivor over a botched resto every time, God speed to your build

Dave Miller

DBMW2002

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When the bones are good, ie no rust everything else is easy, just don your Nazi cap, think like a German and it all goes together like a jig saw puzzle, one piece at a time, sometimes easier when someone botches it, you start from scratch, cut a check and its done right the first time, not like some restos dealin with someone elses crap, Ill take a survivor over a botched resto every time, God speed to your build

Dave Miller

DBMW2002

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