engine and drivetrain Fastest 2002 I have ever encountered....

[gary32]

I read about this 1600 in European Car, super impressive fit finish and product.

Before I put the 13b in my 2002 I explored every BMW option. Pete Mc Henry wanted me to play with a 2 stroke V6 marine engine.

The 13b weighs the same as an M10, sits closer to the firewall in my car and just plain works on a road course. The entire front of my car is an intercooler with a factory rx7 oil cooler below and a big aluminum radiator behind the intercooler. I run a Motec with (5) 1000cc injectors, ceramic apex seals shuffle pins and stronger bolts to keep everything rotary together.

I have a greddy adjustable boost system in my car. With 25lbs of boost my car ran a 10.98 @132mph backed up by a 11.02 @ 132mph in the quarter mile before the Motec and the stout build. When Jay saw my car @ Laguna Seca I was running 15lbs. of boost.

I do not consider myself a skilled driver but my little beast really scoots. Remember Wankel was German.

 

[gary32]

current photo

[gary32]

I need to thanks Darren Young and John Norris for their invaluable knowledge and support.

Propping the hood open convection cools the hot turbo before the cover goes back on.

[gary32]

On 11/27/2019 at 6:42 PM, TobyB said:

12 years ago I was mega fast, too.

NecroBump!

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Toby,

The last 12 years have been a labor of love.

[Son of Marty]

nuff said. 1200 hp in a kart could be fast.

Edited December 7, 2019 by Son of Marty

[visionaut]

Some oldies... 

[uai]

 

[gary32]

? Share time.

My favorite comment was @ an open track day.

Having lunch with the organizers an e36 m3 owner called me an a hole and told me my car smelled like a rotary.

The organizers asked me to please quit passing him.

We ended up being friends.

Edited December 7, 2019 by gary32

[gary32]

1 minute ago, gary32 said:

Awesome, I love original thought.

 

The go kart shot would be more provacitive if she was wearing leathers.

Looks like the silver m10 would be a hard plug change.

I have seen the orange 02 in person she was fun and well done.

S14 conversions are cool but expensive and buzzy in the 02 chassis. (fear over revs)

Drove anaturally aspirated, turbo and a blown S14 in 02's before I went to the dark side.

 

Uai is it a 6 series?

 

[gary32]

On 2/2/2007 at 11:23 AM, JayKehoe said:

Glad to hear that others have seen this car and know something about it. I cannot recall who made that central opening air dam, but my Inka had one at one point in its life( there have been multiple air dams on the car due to PO parking techniques). Golad others know about the rotary/turbo power potentials. So 500 HSP is not unreasonable, given all the right stuff and boost, etc. I should have snapped a pic of the engine, but I did not even bother to take my camera out of the bag. I got some nice shots from HeadOn photos, especially going through the corkscrew. Line was right on, need lots more power, though. Laguna is more of a power track than Sears Point, from an 02 point of view. ( unless you have 3-400 HSP to work with, lol.).

I purchased 2 Kamei front air dams from Ray Korman maybe 20 years ago, I have yet to use the spare.

 

[gary32]

On 1/29/2007 at 12:51 PM, JayKehoe said:

last week, a light blue/square light-small bumper 02 ran at Laguna Seca during the BMWCCA-GGC 1 day school.It was an absolute rocket! It runs a Gen II, twin turbo Rotary engine, with custom radiator, etc. A huge central exhaust spit huge flames as this monster became nearly airborne when upshifting on the strights.The chief steward marvelled at the "take-off" at start'finish diring late passes. The owner told me he still had another 200 HSP, untapped, but available, through more useable boost. The car amazed everyone in the paddock with its power. It has a welded roll bar, and it looked very well sorted. I have never seen this car before, nor its owner, but it is hands-down, the quickest 02 I have seen/heard about. Considering the power to weight numbers from the rotary super plant, nothing BMW makes could equal the numbers. ( other than maybe an F2 engine that would require tear-down and rebuild all the time). Maybe it is "heresy" to run rotary power, but this car is truly a giant killer. I do not know about the rest of the drive train, or how the car manages to keep from breaking apart from all the power, but I imagine that these matters are commensurate with the well-done power plant. I would love to know more about this car. The car had to be running 250 HSP at the rear wheels to be able to accelerate so quickly at will. Man- makes a tii seem like an Isetta, lol.

I kept the lid on my conversion here till Nov. 2019. 

There were some strong negative comments made by mostly BMW and some Rotary people so I kept it quiet.

Couple weeks ago I met a fellow 02 owner who chose this event to test his fresh M2 done by Marc from Bavarian Workshop.

I will not post his name but I apologize for any tension or dissatisfaction I may have caused and I do kind of remember some frustration expressed by Marc, but it was 13 years ago (I know I'm over it) and I am always gracious no matter what you throw at me.

 

 

 

[uai]

On 12/7/2019 at 2:06 PM, gary32 said:

Uai is it a 6 series?

No, it's (or better : has been) a  2002 Turbo

Owner is a strange guy - not everybodies cup of tea. He's pretty old now.

His Website probably was hacked and may contain some malware so I won't post a link here.
But that car had some serious HP but it's fugly

 

 

[gary32]

11 hours ago, uai said:

No, it's (or better : has been) a  2002 Turbo

Owner is a strange guy - not everybodies cup of tea. He's pretty old now.

His Website probably was hacked and may contain some malware so I won't post a link here.
But that car had some serious HP but it's fugly

Strong effort for the ugliest 2002 ever and I like them all.

 

On another subject, that is my last apology for artfully installing and sorting a 13b in my 2002.

 

 

[gary32]

gruppe5 2002

['76mintgrün'02]

We're coming up on a year since it was first discussed here... have they made one yet?

 

 

 

The following quote is from this article about that concept-project :  

https://www.motor1.com/news/348413/gruppe5-2002-bonkers-bmw-race-car/

 

 "Case-in-point is the team at Gruppe5 Motorsport, a company which currently seeks your classic 1968-1975 BMW 2002 so it may morph into a road-legal monster of epic proportions."

 

What do they have against '76s?  Aren't they morphable? 

 

 

 

What  this  thread  needs  is  a  few  videos  of  your  car  in  action!

 

Tom

Edited March 25, 2020 by '76mintgrün'02
wrong link