Game Changer for S-14 Swaps

[COOP]

29 minutes ago, Autostrada said:

 

Some of  us grew up owning and driving these cars as everyday basic transportation. But, many of the owners now purchase these cars for "resto-mod" modification to be driven occasionally to a car show or over the weekend. These are entirely two different mind-sets and worlds. The cars were cheap and accessible to the masses including students, and now they're coveted by hobbyists who modify and showcase them. They are no longer drivers' cars, but rather highly modified garage queens, some outfitted with modern drive-trains. And, there is no shortage of "Specialists" and quacks out there ever willing to step in and charge an exorbitant amount of money to assuage the thirst and desire for these new customers. It's all gone off the charts. Some of the new-comers and Millenials who've discovered  the hobby only recently just talk about the need for speed and overtaking modern traffic and machines. It's as if they're fresh  out of a college fraternity with a "Business-Econ" degree and ready to aggressively pursue their career in Capitalism. Now, they want that classic car, but outfitted with a modern drive-train. God forbid that a mini-van overtakes them on the road. You got to be No. 1. and up front. Go get them "Tiger". The notion of owning and driving a 1500, 1600 or 1800 is pure anathema to this mindset. You gotta have a "Big Boar", "Big Stroke", "Big Induction" , "Big Cam".  "Double the HP", "Triple the Steroids and the Strippers" etc.

ROAAAAARRRRRRRR ! 

ZZZZZZZZZZZZZzzzzzzzzzz??? 

 

You really should consider throwing just a teeny-tiny bit of variety into your acumen lol, it’s downright odiously boring to hear the same, geriatric moaning & whinging post after post about “how it used to be” and “the kids today.”  Jeesh, whatever makes people happy with their cars is just perfectly fine with me, stance, turbos, crazy wraps, stickers, whatever! Variety is the spice of life dude, expand your outlook.

Edited September 23, 2021 by COOP

[Tdh]

49 minutes ago, Autostrada said:

 

Some of  us grew up owning and driving these cars as everyday basic transportation. But, many of the owners now purchase these cars for "resto-mod" modification to be driven occasionally to a car show or over the weekend. These are entirely two different mind-sets and worlds. The cars were cheap and accessible to the masses including students, and now they're coveted by hobbyists who modify and showcase them. They are no longer drivers' cars, but rather highly modified garage queens, some outfitted with modern drive-trains. And, there is no shortage of "Specialists" and quacks out there ever willing to step in and charge an exorbitant amount of money to assuage the thirst and desire for these new customers. It's all gone off the charts. Some of the new-comers and Millenials who've discovered  the hobby only recently just talk about the need for speed and overtaking modern traffic and machines. It's as if they're fresh  out of a college fraternity with a "Business-Econ" degree and ready to aggressively pursue their career in Capitalism. Now, they want that classic car, but outfitted with a modern drive-train. God forbid that a mini-van overtakes them on the road. You got to be No. 1. and up front. Go get them "Tiger". The notion of owning and driving a 1500, 1600 or 1800 is pure anathema to this mindset. You gotta have a "Big Boar", "Big Stroke", "Big Induction" , "Big Cam".  "Double the HP", "Triple the Steroids and the Strippers" etc.

ROAAAAARRRRRRRR ! 

Slavs,

I think you’re  exaggerating just a wee bit here.  Also, you’re conflating someone from my generation (80’s kid/greed is good/Gordon Gecko) with Millennials.   
I’d argue that the propensity to hot rod a 2002 by owners of today has more to do with BMW’s racing legacy and how BMW chose to market/promote the cars from them to now.  Going fast is and has been a big part of the marque’s mystique .  The younger guys I know that are into cars are well aware of that and attracted to to it.   They’re not into steroids and strippers.  They’re into cars, and I say the more the merrier!   

Lastly, I’ll point out that hot rodding the car you like is nothing new.  It’s been going on for a long, long time.  As long as I’ve been into cars (my whole life) there have always been those that chose the originality route, and those  that hot rodded the shit out of their cars.  Hell, I have a photo somewhere of a guy that built a dragster out of a Series II Land Rover for crying out loud.  

Edited September 23, 2021 by Tdh

[Milo]

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[AceAndrew]

lol, thanks Slavs.  However, I don't think the 2002, it's slight tendency towards Americanism, or it's subsequent hot-rodding is specifically a new phenomenon. 

 

"What you like to look for are Triumphs and Porsches and such. Them you can slaughter, no matter how hard they try. And they always try. They really believe all that jazz about their highly-tuned, super-sophisticated sports machines, and the first couple of drubbings at the hands of the 2002 make them think they're off on a bad trip or something. But then they learn the awful truth, and they begin to hang back at traffic signals, pretending that they weren't really racing and all. Ha! Grovel, Morgan. Slink home with your tail between your legs, MG-B. Hide in the garage when you see a BMW coming. If you have to race with something, pick a sick kid on an old bicycle." 

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The Germans have a word for it. The German paper Auto Bild called the 2002 Flüstern Bombe which means "Whispering Bomb," and you should bear in mind that the German press speaks of bombs, whispering and otherwise, with unique authority. They, too, saw something American in the car's design concept, but only insofar as BMW had elected to stuff a larger, smoother engine into their smallest vehicle." 

 

- David E Davies

     written in 1968 .... NO WAIT, I meant 2021.

[Tdh]

Slavs, 

the irony here is that I’m pretty sure you’re part of the majority.  Most 2002 owners I come into contact with choose not to heavily modify their cars.  Further, the more valuable they become the less likely it is that a new owner will modify their new to them 2002.  In fact, I’d argue that you’ll begin to see more and more reversal of mods as/if values truly go nuts.  
 

End of the day, I get it.  You have a personal connection to your cars.  Same here, mines just different than yours.  That doesn’t make me Gordon Gekko…

Edited September 23, 2021 by Tdh

[Milo]

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[Milo]

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[maharaja]

Phew... breathing a sigh of relief.. I hope it went to a worthy prole garage..

 

https://bringatrailer.com/listing/s14-2/?utm_source=dm&utm_medium=email&utm_campaign=2021-09-26

[JWT]

On 9/23/2021 at 1:16 PM, Autostrada said:

FYI

There's a lot of variety to my life.

I'm actually fast becoming a "Unique" minority here. I refuse to wear a "BMW" logo, much less a S14 T-shirt. And. I've driven and worked on these cars for 40 years. How many people drive a stock 1600 vs. a modified 02 these days ? I represent the minority or "Blacksheep" here, and your're tired of me espousing the same thing over and over. Maybe some of us are tired of hearing the resto-mod lingo over and over again. 

 

My first job was that of a shepherd where I took the sheep to pasture every day. I came home each day smelling like sheep. 

As I led my flock the predator wolves were always on the look out, ready to pounce. I don't know if some of them were wearing s14 T-shirts, but they might as well have been. I learned more through that experience than anything else in my 57 years of existence.  Why don't you take the sheep out to pasture, avoiding S-14 testosterone predators and spend driving a bone stock 1600 for 40 years, then tell me what you think "Dude" !

 

 

I drive a bone stock 1600....Its sweet as cherry pie I tell ya!  Wouldn't change a thing. I wear a Rush shirt while driving though.....but....I do not have a stereo......ohhhh the irony.

Edited September 27, 2021 by JWT

[Tdh]

14 hours ago, maharaja said:

Phew... breathing a sigh of relief.. I hope it went to a worthy prole garage..

 

https://bringatrailer.com/listing/s14-2/?utm_source=dm&utm_medium=email&utm_campaign=2021-09-26

I hear you!  That was a crazy auction.  I was starting to wonder if the damn thing would break the 10k mark.  Don’t know if you noticed, but one of the comments indicated that it had been listed on s14.net not long ago for $12.5.  

[M3This]

10 hours ago, Tdh said:

I hear you!  That was a crazy auction.  I was starting to wonder if the damn thing would break the 10k mark.  Don’t know if you noticed, but one of the comments indicated that it had been listed on s14.net not long ago for $12.5.  

the $14k it sold for on BAT is definitely a premium for that motor with the high mileage it’s really more a a nice candidate for a rebuild IMO. Whoever bought that paid over $15k once you add in the buyers fee.

[jimk]

Good deal are still out there.

https://s14net.vbulletin.net/forum/s14/general-e30-m3-discussion/1305228-help-me-identify-which-s14-engine-i-have#post1305252

[Tdh]

13 minutes ago, jimk said:

Good deal are still out there.

https://s14net.vbulletin.net/forum/s14/general-e30-m3-discussion/1305228-help-me-identify-which-s14-engine-i-have#post1305252

$1500?  That wasn't a good deal, that was a straight up theft!?

 

 

[M3This]

Yea thats an amazing deal.