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  1. Yes, you can change to the later CV joints, but you got to make sure the diff drive flanges are pre-drilled for the later style. The bolt spacing is different. At some point during 1968 the factory was pre-drilling the diff drive flanges for both, early and late. As far as hydraulic clutch. I've made the change on both of my cars in anticipation of installing a 5 speed. After installing the 5 speed on one of my cars, I've decided to leave the early 4 speed in place on the other because it shifts much smoother. To convert to hydraulic clutch you got to use the 2002 pedal box. And, if you do that on the 68 you may have to juggle around more than the pedal box, including the brake booster and brake master. The hydraulic conversion on a 69 1600 is much easier. You can also modify your existing pedal box to accept a clutch master. This way you avoid juggling around the brake booster and master cylinder. That was done to my 67.
  2. I've been probably one of the leading sources of information on the FAQ concerning 1600s since 2005. Before that I contributed to another board over a period of about 10 years. Conserv, Mike Self and TobyB are also very knowledgeable with 1600s and 2002s down to the minutia and details. Between the three of these guys you can put together the most comprehensive guide to these cars. You can send me a PM, and I'll be glad to answer any of your questions. While many people lump 1600s into one simple category, there were probably more changes made to the 1600 during the first three years of production than there were to the 2002 during its production run from 1968-76. I'm actually still learning even after tinkering with these cars and driving them over the past 40+ years. I just drove my 1600 to pick-up a family member from LAX. It's been my main source of transportation all these years. People were staring at my car in disbelief at the International flight terminal. Thanks, -M
  3. I installed the windshield seals on my cars. The factory rubber works great while the aftermarket brands are a hit and miss. I'll use the factory seals next time. I go slowly, and it takes me longer than 45min. to install a seal along with the lock strip. i learned to do it on my own as I can't afford mechanics. And, even if I could, I would still do it on my own.
  4. I live in So Cal where the summers are not 02 friendly unless you're driving by the beach or at night. A higher efficiency two row radiator is more than adequate. But, it also gets clogged a lot easier. And, when it's time for the radiator shop to service it and rod it out, there is a good chance they may clog up at least a few of the coolant fins with solder because they are quite a bit smaller on these high efficiency radiators. If you have any crud in that engine block, the radiator will get clogged, especially the high efficiency variety. So, it's really important you flush out the engine block etc. There are chemical additives you can add to just water which are non-corrosive and which lift the rust from your block. You mix it with water and run it for a couple of days before dumping everything and flushing out the block. I've recently obtained a radiator with a new stock spec core, and it works really well for me, better than my old high efficiency radiator.
  5. Jack, This is my "Fun" time, when I take a break from the toolbox. Ok ! Ok ! We'll let the guy sell his stuff. You can only harass the melon vendor or peddler so much. People have to make their living. And, there is nothing wrong with asking the "Market Value" for parts. I understand. This is the "Bezaar" after all. But, I can't help it. I got to chime in with my 90s era Junk Yard nostalgia. I though I hated the junk yards with their grime and grease in the sweltering heat of SoCal's summer, but now I long for those days. Perhaps I'll write a book or screenplay about it where I can include all my tiring narrative so that it doesn't have to manifest itself on this board. Now, that's an idea worth pursuing.
  6. I know. I'm raining on the parts sales parade. But, somebody has to remind you guys of the direction in which all of this has gone. It's ridiculous. I'll give you my honest assessment of the 245/5 gearbox and the limited slip diff. I have one of these gearboxes coupled to a 2 liter and a long neck 4.11 limited slip diff. First and foremost it's an over rated gearbox. 5th gear is way out there at .80 or 20% taller than the 1:1 ratio of 4th gear. It works with the 3.64 diff, but barely as you got to downshift on even the small grades. So, people install a 3.90 diff to cut down the overdrive effect and bring it down to 10% - 12%, depending on the tire size. And, while doing this the diff of choice is the short neck "S" package limited slip 3.90 from the 320i. This has become the package of choice for just about every 02 owner aspiring for that "Improvement" package. Now, let's take a closer look at that conversion; You got to shorten the driveshaft and refit it in the correct position. I had to reposition the driveshaft 2X before I finally got everything aligned. The aftermarket transmission cross member bracket wasn't exactly drilled correctly my whatever shop which produced it. Then there is that slave cylinder on the 245/5 which sits up high in the tunnel. Good luck trying to service it while everything is in place. And, then there is that short neck LSD. Have you ever driven a car on a wet surface equipped with a LSD ? You're asking for trouble as your tail with swing out in front of your nose in a second unless you are very careful and ginger with the accelerator pedal. The LAS is great for the track on a dry day. And, the so called "Rare" factor is just hype. These diffs and transmissions were produced by the tens of thousands. They littered the junkyards where they were just disposable junk sold at low prices to some of us who would go out there and crawl in the mud, sand and grease to remove them from the cars in the salvage yards. I'm not selling parts for a living. So, to me a lot of this stuff is worth what it represents to me; used "As Is" parts. It's a pain fitting a 245/5 to a car. And, it is important to know the condition of the diff or trans beforehand. Rebuilding them is expensive. So, as a core they are only worth about $100 to me. If I ever sell mine, I won't ask for much more. That also applies to the set of Recaros, now in need of new upholstery, I removed from a 320i at the salvage yard for about $45. I could care less for Recaros. And, I'm not using them. They are sitting in my brother's old 02, now retired in front of my house. The previous owner did the 2L conversion with the 245/5 and LSD on my 67 1600-2. He converted it to 12V as well. I was looking to get it back to a 1.6 with the 4 speed Porsche synchroed trans. But, going back in that direction has become very expensive considering the price of 6V electrical components for the early cars. I've collected the block, NOS pistons, crank NOS 118 head, Porsche synchroed smooth case trans and 6V instrument cluster. But, the 6V generator is ridiculously expensive. I should have grabbed one at the salvage yard back in the day. And, then there is the 6V heater blower motor etc.
  7. Is that a yellow Datsun 510 with flares, the third car up ahead of you ?
  8. Back in 1960-61 BMW designed and built just two examples of the 700RS Spyder for this purpose, only. The spyders shed all unecessary weight and didn'teven have a generator or alternator. They just got their juice from the battery as hill climbs are relatively short races. The modified 700cc BMW flat twin motorcycle motors were modified to put out 85hp for these cars which probably weighed less than 1,000lbs. Porsche removed their 4 cam 4 cylinder Fuhrman motors from their 550 spyders, equipping them with their standard 356 motors when running in hill climbs where low end power and low gearing plays a more important role. I imagine an 02 designed specifically for hill climbs would have very tight low gearing such as a 4.11, 4.30, 4.75 or even lower gearing to catapult it uphill. I run a stock 2L motor with single barrel carb and 4.11 long neck LSD diff coupled to a 245/5 speed. I find myself mostly in 4th and 5th gear when climbing 2 lane highways to the ski slopes.
  9. Milo

    1600GT

    Ok ! Ok ! I also graduated from college way back when I used my 1600-2 as a commuter car, commuting to and from school 50 miles each day. And, I can tell you from personal experience that crawling under a greasy car and busting your knuckles while wrenching on an 02 is more of a man's job and physically more demanding and harder than anything I've experienced at school or behind a key board. After working underneath my car for a day I'd feel as though I've been run over by a freight train the next day. And, that was at age 22. Now at 57 it's only gotten harder. School, though, takes more of a mental toll on a person, given all the politics and BS associated with academia. The guy selling this car is trying to capitalize on all the hype and BS which has been partially driven by the Yuppies and the techies during the past 20 years. I wouldn't give him a penny for this heap of rust. He would have to pay me to take it off his hands. He's obviously taken a cue from Magnus Walker, the Porsche collector from Downtown LA who's also sold rust-bucket 912's for $60K +. Some of these people ponder how they will sell and market their own feces. That's their mindset, how they can make a $$ off anything associated with them and / or their brand.
  10. Sad, he was a true enthusiast with good input on this board.
  11. The Martian along with the the other guys above have all raised good points. And, this also includes the input from the guy with the NATO logo (If you want to flaunt your military alliance, I'll include my own, the Victory Banner of the 150th Rifle, Order of Kutuzov 2nd class, Idritsa Division, 79th Rifle Corps, 3rd Shock Army, 1st Belorussian Front, which the glorious Red Army raised over the Reichstag on May 1st, 1945). I would personally build a stock motor or "ti" spec, which is essentially stock with just a slight bump in compression, using NOS or factory pistons, only, along with a standard crank, no regrinds. These are the two most critical components. The crank is the backbone, and the piston quality is critical. there is no substitute for the MAHLE factory pistons for a street motor. Once you you have these two components, the rest comes easy, including the block.
  12. That Red and black interior in that faded Polaris 1800ti, in very good shape with no tears looked really good. I often wonder what happened to that car. During the late 90s a lot of us were hanging around and living in the industrial warehouse Arts District of Downtown Los Angeles. In those days you can rent a large 5,000 sq. ft. space with 5 toilet stalls for $900 / month. There were a lot of people living there. artists, musicians, bohemians, strippers, starving aspiring screenwriters and actors etc. The area has undergone gentrification and all of those warehouses have been subdivided and converted into small, but expensive Yuppie "Loft" dwellings. Magnus Walker moved into one of the larger spaces with his Porsche collection and started to sell heaps of rust for $60K + , what a joke ! Anyways, getting back on track; People used the area as a makeshift dump. Among the abandoned items was a clean Alpine White 1800ti. It was complete, but it sat there for weeks, untouched. It was outfitted with Webers, which one of my friends removed. The car met an ignominious end as the city towed it away to some salvage yard where it was most likely crushed. It had sat between buildings near an artery to the main line of railroad tracks running down Alameda St. The track of the my 1600 with 205/60 x 13 tires matched the width of the tracks. And, I would drive it along the tracks at 50mph + in the dark of night down the long paved section of Alameda. They've paved over those track about 15-20 years ago. I thought about grabbing that 1800ti, but what would it have taken to register it, if possible. This is the area along with vestiges of the tracks. Imagine that 1800ti just sitting there near the tracks between the buildings. Locomotives with a couple of cars would crawl along the tracks , like lumbering leviathans, in the middle of the morning. You had to be careful not to collide with them, especially in the dark of night after a raucous loft party. I had a couple of close calls in my 1600. Well, I've gone on a tangent "Off Track" like so many other times. Railroad (L.A. Rat Hole) Photo Gallery | DPD Productions DPDPRODUCTIONS.COM On the East side of downtown Los Angles, there once was an area known to Southern Pacific RR crews as "The Rat Hole". This area was a maze of tracks that led to dozens of door to door businesses that the railroad served. To reach those businesses, many tracks twisted and...
  13. As far as rebuilding, the most critical components on the carbs are the throttle shafts which wear and leak air. There is an e-bay vendor in Italy who sells just about all the parts for these carbs, including new oversize throttle shafts. It's a lot easier for the rebuilder to install these vs. installing bushings. All the gaskets etc are available. The Solex PHH carbs all differ between the various BMW models, 1800ti, 1600ti and 2002 ti. The 1800ti versions are older and have very short emulsion tubes, if you can even call them that. If you have a 1600ti, I would advise you to start with 1600ti specific PHH 40s and get them rebuilt. If you had them rebuilt and they were just sitting, all they need is a good cleaning and maybe some new gaskets. And, if this is the case, this shouldn't cost much. Back in 1983 I got my set of 1800ti carbs hot tanked. The bodies of the carbs came out with a hint of green tint. The air horns or trumpets polish well, but the 02 specific trumpets are angled. And, some appear to have a rougher finish. On several occasions I've recounted how I obtained those carbs in Hollywood from a guy who had three 1800tis sitting in his driveway. You entered his bungalow by using one of the cars as a step. He sold me the carbs for $100 or so, air canister included along with linkage and manifolds. And, he threw in one of the 1800ti's for FREE. He had cannibalized the head from it, otherwise it was complete with an excellent interior in Red & Black. I just grabbed those front seats and left the car on the street as I didn't have the resources to get it towed back to Burbank. I was just 17 years old. When I got home I realized the NK seats were too wide for my 1600. So, I gave them away to my friend who was getting his Olds Cutlass back on the road. He installed them in that red Olds Cutlass and eventually destroyed them. In short time he parked that Cutlass, as it drank a lot of fuel, and purchased a solid 1963 Porsche 356 B model for $2,500, which he used as daily transportation to college. After taking turns commuting my friend realized my 1600 was much more practical than his 356. By 1986 he found a solid 1971 2002 for $1,400 and used that car as his daily driver for the next 10 years. 1800tis were dirt cheap and sometimes FREE. I also came across a few 1600tis. One was being sold, minus the motor, for $300. And, the body was solid. There was one up for sale in Glendale, CA about 15 years ago. The guy was asking $8K for it, but he had cannibalized the door cards and replaced them with ones from a later square model car. He had also taken off the rear bumper and replaced it with a US federalized style from 68. He was cannibalizing parts from the 1600ti for his Cabriolet restoration. The car drove well, though. I test drove it. It still had the original motor and carbs.
  14. The Moskvitch was a decent car, but I always liked the Lada, a license built Fiat 124 with better steel for bodywork and heavy duty suspension among other improvements. And Yes ! the Yuppies and Johnny come lately's are digging deep into their pockets and paying exorbitant prices so they can brag and drive their cars to meets. I used my 02s as everyday transportation. We drove them into the ground and repaired them on shoe string budgets back in the day. And, it was a lot more fun rummaging through salvage yards and finding dirt cheap parts vs. paying top dollar for parts from vendors these days. And, the Europeans will come back knocking on Russia's door, begging to sell their cars there again, that includes Renault. https://www.rbth.com/history/332048-lada-2101-soviet-cars
  15. You guys are all nutty over these things. I have a 245/5 I removed from an e21 with 80K miles indicated on the odometer at the wrecking yard back in the 90s for a mere $100. It's a used transmission. And now, people are asking $2K for these things. It's just a $100 used transmission to me. No, I'm not selling it now. It's a spare for my early 1600 which was "Upgraded" by the previous owner with all these things, unfortunately.
  16. There are some transmission shops which work on them. I don't know which bearings are NLA. Given all this, it's a lot of work to go through the trouble of installing it and doing all the modifications to the driveshaft and linkage only to find out the freshly installed 245 5 speed needs to be rebuilt. This is why I scoff at the asking prices for these used transmissions with unknown number of miles and "As Is". People are asking near $2k for them. I used to get them from Pick A Part for $100 25-30 years ago. I still have a spare for one of my cars. And, I only removed them from cars which had lower odometer readings. I never removed one from a car with over 100K miles on the odometer. I'm not as impressed with this transmission as some people. I think it works well with the short stroke 1.8L and the 3.90 diff. But, when you introduce the longer stroke 2.0L with a 3.90 diff, the shift points in lower gears are a bit too low. It feels better with the 3.64 diff, but then you have that 5th gear which is a bit too tall for the 3.64 diff. And then there is that clutch slave which is mounted high on the 245 and very difficult to service when installed into an 02. I have one in one of my cars, but I doubt I'll install one in my other car even though I have everything required for the install. I could go on, but I'd never pay more than $100 for a used one. If still available new from BMW for $4K, I'd take that route, funds permitting.
  17. You gotta be kidding, Not an oil drip from any of those 02s ?
  18. That's really cool you have a 1965 1800Ti. This "Ti" emblem came off an early 65 or late 64 1800ti. It cost me nothing. So, I'm considering giving it to you so that your emblem is complete. Where are you located ? Are you in Fullerton ? It looks like you were born at about the time I found this emblem. Did you just recently acquire the white 1800ti which was up for sale down here in SoCal ? Do you have any pics of your car ?

     

    - Slavs

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    2. Milo

      Milo

      I've been pretty dismayed with the classic car community in general, and that includes the BMW scene. I've had a lot of negative experiences. So, I've been staying away from some of the gatherings. I will definitely not attend the SoCal event scheduled at 2002AD. They screwed me once, and they will not screw me again. But, I may go down to the Reyn Speed Shop event or to La Jolla Independent. If you're going down there I can pass on that  "ti" badge to you, then. Otherwise I can send it to you etc.

       

      -Slavs

    3. 02tradition

      02tradition

      If you’re local I’m more than happy to pick it up. Otherwise I’ll try and find you at the Reyn speed shop event!

    4. 02tradition

      02tradition

      Hey slavs ill be at the la jolla event. Look for me in the 1987 L6!

  19. Well. I've had it sitting here on my desk for nearly 30 years. It's just a souvenir from that day at Pick A Part. I traded the NK air filter canister for the 02ti version Jeremy had siting around at Ireland Engineering about 20 years ago. if you indeed have a 1965 1800ti missing this piece I'll consider giving it to you. I don't want anything for it. It just cost me a buck. I'll send you a PM.
  20. I just drank my $2 Russian beer, and I'm in good spirits and ready to chime in. I love good deals, on both, car parts and beer. Those emblems are in very good NOS shape. Are they a good deal ? It all depends, but like it or not it's the going rate for such emblems in excellent shape. I use to pick them for a $1 / piece at the junk yards 30 years ago, but even back then there weren't too many of those cars at the yards. As far as gold vs. chrome; 27-30 years ago I came across an 1800ti at a Pick Your Part self service salvage yard here in Los Angeles. It was all there, complete and in pretty solid shape. I removed the motor, carbs, air cleaner canister, distributor, etc. It all cost me a mere $120. Basically, I just unbolted the motor from the motor mounts and transmission and called over the fork lift operator to hoist the motor on to my pick-up. That's the way it worked in those places. I didn't remove the "1800" emblem, but I did remove the "Ti" emblem for which I paid an extra buck, pictured here. I didn't have a NK car, but I thought this was worthwhile. The 02 folks back then showed no interest in the NK cars or even early 02s. They were just passed over and essentially "give-away" cars. Unfortunately I missed several opportunities to pick up one for dirt cheap, thinking "I'm going to wait to come across a pristine one". This "Ti" emblem is gold, and I don't remember if the "1800" emblem was also gold, but I would assume so. This particular 1800ti was a very early example from 64 or early 65, judging by the connecting rod profile which is a dull knife edge shape. As far as the "Krankenwagen", somebody gave it to me. I must be a "Lightweight" at my age, or is it the beer ?
  21. I used to come across them at the self service salvage yards for $10/each. They had a bench to test them, a 6V battery for the 6V components and a 12V battery for the 12V components. People used to throw away the 6V starters as they converted to 12V. These things were give-away parts up until about 10 years ago. I was trying to collect all the parts to revert my early 67 1600-2 back to 6V with the smooth case 4 speed and 1967 1600cc motor. Well, I acquired a 67 1600 factory replacement block with no serial number. I also have the correct 4 speed trans to replace the current 5 speed overdrive. And, I have a 6V gauge cluster I picked up at the salvage yard for $12. But, after looking around for a starter and a few other electrical parts I got really dismayed.
  22. Milo

    1600GT

    Well, not $1.49, but I did answer an ad in the local Recyler publication during 1983-84 where a guy in Pasadena was selling two of them, one in Excellent shape in Granada red and a complete parts car in light green, all for $4,500. It was a good deal considering that was the price ceiling for a very clean Porsche 912 or a late 60s 911 short wheelbase in good condition. I wonder who purchased those cars. And, now someone is asking $60k for this heap of rust ? $60k for a 1600Gt in good condition is still a lot of $$$$. But, you know, maybe some "Hipster" or "tech Yuppie" will be aroused enough to drop their not so hard earned $$$$ on just the name or "Patina", so that they can display it in their hanger, warehouse or gallery, as a conversation piece. Many years back Jeff Ireland had a rolling shell of the Glas powered version sitting in his shop, completely painted and ready for drive train install. I don't recall what they were asking for it, but I think it was between $5K - $10K. The stock 1600Gt was capable of 120mph with the 1600ti motor and 3.64 diff. I wonder how fast it would be with a stock tii motor ? I still have the mid 90s U-Pick Part salvage yard price list in my head. That yard was a goldmine. During the late 90s they acquired a Porsche 500 spyder Beck Replica. They didn't put it out in the yard, but were selling it complete for $7K. It was VW powered like most. In this case the builder opted to install a hand controlled dune buggy style throttle. I thought that was odd, but the car was complete and running. Back then Beck was selling his turn key kits for about $20K. The company was sold to some Yuppies in Malibu who immediately doubled the price tag to about $40K. I think they may be still selling them for about $60K. It's all gotten pretty ridiculous.
  23. How much oil did those cars drip on to than clean paving stone ?
  24. No Affiliation, https://offerup.com/item/detail/1399553773?q=bmw+1600&cid=5.1
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