tires and wheels michelin harmony

[ChuckR]

hi, has anyone used the Michelin Harmony Touring (P175/70R13)? i'm looking for a good all season for my '69 running the original wheels. I have coopers right now and am not very happy with them. thanks Chuck

[Groundhog]

These are the oems. Look original but not the best handling. http://store.coker.com/165hr13-michelin-xas-ff.html

Or you can go with these and lower the car a bit (easier said than done). It will handle much better, ride a touch harsher.

http://toyotires.com/tire/pattern/proxes-r888

[jgerry2002]

185/70 is the proper +1 , 175/70 is too small...

That R888 is 205/60 13, which may not clear depending on wheel offset and need to be on 5.5" rims minimum to be safe. 185/60s are too small, but are probably more doable with a stock rim.

[tjones02]

185/70 is the proper +1 , 175/70 is too small...

Yes, I second that 175/70's are too short. That 185/70-13 is the proper +1 tire size on '02 from the stock 13x4.5" to the TI and TII 5" up to a 6.5" wide wheel.

[Blau02(MN)]

I have the Michelin Harmony in 175/70/13, and they are a bit short, figure 8-9mph off at 70. The grip is pretty good, and the cars feels much better in the twisties than with 205s.

[osbourne]

hi, has anyone used the Michelin Harmony Touring (P175/70R13)? i'm looking for a good all season for my '69 running the original wheels. I have coopers right now and am not very happy with them. thanks Chuck

Chuck,

You left out one very important bit of information: What type of driving will you be doing with the car? Personally, I stopped buying Michelins several years ago (except for their excellent winter tires) because they seem to "cup" almost as soon as they're installed, Michelin keeps discontinuing tire models after a very short production run, making it impractical to replace just two instead of all four, plus they are over-priced, in general.

I've gone to Kumhos on all of my cars, with the 02 being the most recently re-shod. They're very reasonably priced (heck, they're CHEAP), seem to hold up quite well, and, although not the "stickiest" tires out there, they are adequate and provide good road feel (something Michelins were always lacking in).

But, it all depends on how you drive YOUR car, after all. What works well for me (and BTW, I hate big, fat tires on street-driven cars.......but that's just MY opinion and shouldn't keep others from putting fat tires on, if they want) may be totally unsuitable for you.

[ChuckR]

thank you for all the info. my driving style is conservative, at times spirited. My current tires lose grip in the slightest adverse road conditions, e.g. they suck.

i had always gone for Michelins on my other old European cars and had great luck. I think my problem is the size, i'll upgrade size for sure and look at the Kumhos.

regards to all, Chuck

[Bill_Riblett]

These are the oems. Look original but not the best handling. http://store.coker.com/165hr13-michelin-xas-ff.html

I've driven a tii with the Coker XASs and was really disappointed. Hard ride and very poor traction.

[Dutchie3719]

Seconded on the Kuhmo's. They run great, and I've only had them loose grip twice, during some rather I deserved to do that moments. I drove them through some pretty bad rainstorms without a problem. I can't tell you exactly what I have, but I believe they are Kuhmo Solus 175/70/13 but I could be wrong. I can check them for you when Im back home winter break....but im pretty sure that would be useless. Good Luck, hope you find the tires you need.

-Dan

[Swiftus]

If you remind me I will check what your tires are the next time I am over there . . . BUT . . . I think that you have 185s my friend.