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Pop goes the bushing


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So the other night, i am backing the 2002 up the street, and my friend begins to walk behind me, causing me to slam on my brakes. I then hear a POP.

Upon inspection i discover that #5 (Diagram below) has pushed itself out of the mount on the subframe. The usual cursing and swearing followed, and now i need to know what to use to press the damn thing back in. I have never heard of this happening before, but the result of it is aLOT of caster, and the wheel rubs against the front of the wheel well.

HELLLPPP!!

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Damn, thats crazy. I bet there's a lot of slop/soft rubber in all your bushings to have allowed that.

You can try squeezing that one back in there, but it ain't gonna last. It'll happen again, more and more.

I think its time for a poly upgrade at least for the whole front end! Poly two-piece bushings will go in much easier....

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yeah i figured.

I replaced all the front end bushings not to long ago, and i thought they were two piece. But now that i remember i couldnt get the poly bushing out of that side because it was bent... i think.

Well i guess that is what i will do.. would these bushings be the lower strut rod bushings in IE's front kit??

Chris T.

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yeah i figured.

I replaced all the front end bushings not to long ago, and i thought they were two piece. But now that i remember i couldnt get the poly bushing out of that side because it was bent... i think.

Well i guess that is what i will do.. would these bushings be the lower strut rod bushings in IE's front kit??

Chris T.

you've recently replaced them? ohhh, then something ain't right. Should be nothing wrong with them, its gotta be installation or something.

Maybe put too much grease on them, and it was a really damn sudden stop?

something is bent?? did that help this happen?

All good hardware in the proper location? I'm thinkin there's huge bolts and washers that keep the bushing in place.

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ohh there is. I replaced them on the old subframe. When it became bent after a slight argument with a curb, i couldn't get it out, so i left the rubber bushing in. The passenger side is a Poly.

And it was a damn sudden stop, and i think in combination with the abruptness and a little bit of play because of loose bolts, it just popped itself through. :((

I just sent an email to jeff ireland to see if i could buy just one bushing. On his site its listed as a lower strut rod bushing; this is the bushing in question is it not?

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I replaced all the front end bushings not to long ago

I think you may have left out washer #4 in the drawing-

it's there to prevent that sort of thing...

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I have found that silicone spray often negates the need for an hydraulic press. I installed new ones on my subframe by simply using a twisting motion with silicone. Also note that there are some aluminum busings "Vorspannringe" on German ebay that take up a lot of the play in this joint. . I have yet to see any of these available in the US. Another fix is to install an another large washer in addition to #4 to take out some of the flex--this was an old fix back in the mid 70"s. Is everyting OK on the opposite end of the radius rod where it connects to the track arm (and what about the track arm to the subframe) ? Good Luck.

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I think you may have left out washer #4 in the drawing-

it's there to prevent that sort of thing...

Nope, the washer was on there; I remeber taking it off when i tried to push the busing back in.

I think my fix will be to order a new two piece bushing from IE, and completely avoid having to press one in.

Thanks for all the suggestions,

Chris

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am i reading this wrong or was something bent and not fixed? if so i think you have a situation that needs to be addressed or replaced before you install another bushing.

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no no the subframe was bent, and replaced. The bolt for the lower strut rod was loose casuing it to drive the bushing out of the mount when i braked very abruptly in reverse.

My perdicament was that i couldnt get the bushing back in, because i didnt have a press.

But no worries now, as i have a new two piece poly on the way from IE.

Chris

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Washers #4 and #9 are bigger than the hole in the frame. How could they possibly pop through?

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