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Cluster refresh - now no blinker indicator


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I decided to pull my cluster, take it apart, clean it, etc. The refresh included some cleaning, new bulbs, etc.

 

Reinstalling  it today and now the turn signal indicator does not activate. Confirmed the bulb is fine. Confirmed that turn signals/hazards all still work as they should.

 

Not sure what I could have done to it.   
 

 

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5 minutes ago, Dave919 said:

Confirmed the bulb is fine.

Did you install a new bulb? If so was the correct/same wattage as the old one?

76 2002 Survivor

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21 minutes ago, bergie33 said:

How are the other gauges and indicator lights? Maybe a ground issue? 

All other lights functioning as before. I did *add* grounds at the knurled nuts. 

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Does your dash light (turn signal green) work when the hazard button is pushed?

Check/clean the connections on the Black/white wire between the flasher relay and the dash plug pin #8.

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No - hazard button does not have corresponding flash on the dash indicator even though the lights flash at all four corners 

 

Tomorrow I’ll pull it back out and check all connections.

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Sounds like the problem is in the flasher relay, especially since the interior repeater doesn't work with either turn signals or emergency flashers.  

 

Inside the relay you'll find two sets of points--one for the exterior lamps and a smaller one for the interior one.  Carefully remove the cover from the relay, then plug it back in and select a left or right turn (ign on).  Observe the two relay point sets; they work in opposition--outside lights blink, then the repeater.  Some relays have two separate sets of points, while others have a single moving contact that alternates between two fixed contacts.  Check to insure the contacts are clean.  If so...

 

You may have to carefully bend the fixed point for the repeater that isn't making contact until the movable point contact touches it.  

 

mike

 

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5 hours ago, Mike Self said:

Sounds like the problem is in the flasher relay, especially since the interior repeater doesn't work with either turn signals or emergency flashers.  

 

Inside the relay you'll find two sets of points--one for the exterior lamps and a smaller one for the interior one.  Carefully remove the cover from the relay, then plug it back in and select a left or right turn (ign on).  Observe the two relay point sets; they work in opposition--outside lights blink, then the repeater.  Some relays have two separate sets of points, while others have a single moving contact that alternates between two fixed contacts.  Check to insure the contacts are clean.  If so...

 

You may have to carefully bend the fixed point for the repeater that isn't making contact until the movable point contact touches it.  

 

mike

 

Mike are you suggesting that the issue is purely coincidental to removing the cluster? 

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11 hours ago, Dave919 said:

Mike are you suggesting that the issue is purely coincidental to removing the cluster? 

The flasher relay might be affected by a change in the cluster ground, or even if you displaced or loosened the plug where the relay joins the car's wiring.  The fact that the blinker doesn't work either when selecting a turn signal or emergency flashers points to the relay, or, less likely the emergency flasher switch, which has contacts for both the emergency flashers (work with ign off) and another set for the turn signals (work only with ign on). 

 

Those pushbutton emergency switches are fiendishly complicated inside, but the fact that your outside flashers work in both turn signal and emergency mode points to the flasher relay--presuming, of course that the repeater bulb is good and seated properly in its socket.

 

mike

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