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Bad Purchase Horror Story - And Other Questions....


sam1904

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Recently bought a 72 from a supposedly 'reputable' MI 2002 source. The car turned up with SO much structural rust the rear suspension is completely unattached form the car on the right and there is more household srapy insulation, painted black and posing as metal that it is getting towed to the scrap yard............Long story but in 20 years of restoring cars I have never seen anyone go to these lengths to deceive and gain $7K. (Even if they had to give $3K back)

So. I am thinking of trying to use the few good parts from this car on a local 75' with front end damage to not lose $4k entirely and my dream of a 2002 AutoX car.

Will the hood, and trunk from a 72 fit a 75? I am unsure if it was a face lift from roundie to square rear lights or more substantial panel change..

Thanks
Sam

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Thanks. The 72 is a manual, the 75 an auto. I am assuming that either changing out the transmission / or motor and tranny is doable. I guess I will have to steal the peddle box from the 72...

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Nice thing about the '75 automatic is that fitting an E21 five speed is easier as the automatic body shells have a slightly larger tranny tunnel so no "percussive modifications" need to be made so that the 5 speed clutch slave cylinder will fit.

 

cheers

mike

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Realoem will show you parts interchangeability. Just find the part number and enter in the appropriate field for cross references.

 

... Another Rare Rides beauty?

 

Search is your friend.

 

Good luck with it.

Ray

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is Rare Rides the shop that has ads featuring the 2002's FS in a  shop w/ a checker board race flag style floor?..

 

geez..if it is..we all should know. They seem to sell alot of 02s...

 

 

 

 

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I see it is RR w/ that flooring

 

was the car on this thread from RR?....

 

out them

 

PS..any pics of the 911R 3.0?....cmon!!

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Just to be clear I did not mention who I bought this from, I was also "told" by the seller that they essentially brokered the car from someone else and so to be fair cannot comment on the source of the ridiculousness I encountered on this car....

 

As for the R3.0... check out this link...

 

http://forums.pelicanparts.com/porsche-cars-sale/812916-ultimate-close-1971-longhood-3-0-915-5spd-all-goodies.html

 

Sam

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OK, so I checked the site above but just to be sure...

I can turn a 75 Auto into a 4 or 5 spd manual? (E.g. pedal box cut out is same etc?)

I may go straight to 5Spd or start with the 4Spd in the 72...

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While I was waiting for the 72 to arrive I planned...

 

maybe ITB EFI

5 Spd

Bare metal w/ cage

Mild suspension / brake tweaks

Lightweight AutoX car 

 

When it arrived and I discovered it is unusable I am now looking for a plan B.

 

If the 75 Auto with front end damage I look at tomorrow is lacking any serious rust I may go back to the same plan. I may also end up going to a bare shell and starting from there...

 

The whole entire was to end up with a low budget car i can have fun in  and AutoX, that was what I originally planned years ago with the 911 but it ended up too nice to risk breaking...

 

Still deciding.

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  • 2 weeks later...

The following images may disturb... 2002 dream dead and $4000, and many precious hours out of pocket

 

Always get a PPI and never be talked out of closing the deal on Ebay.... Did get a partial refund but still out of pocket $4000. If anyone wants more details PM me. 

 

From this....

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To this and $130 Scrap money and a few parts no one wants in AR...
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Someone went to a lot of effort, used a lot of shower caulk, household spray insulation, undercoat and other means at some point in this vehicles history to make it look respectable. Some of that stuff must also take for ever to set as when I pulled it off I got wet caulk and black paint on my fingers...
 

 

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