WTB: 14" Neue Klasse steelies

[Pouya]

Let me know if you have a set.

[wegweiser]

If you eventually score a set, here's a hot tip:

 

3.0 bavaria / E3 dog bowl hubcaps fit...and look completely awesome on these!

 

I did a trial run with some a few years ago on my own car. If I can find them, I might have photos of one test-mounted. Stay tuned!

 

 

[Pouya]

4 hours ago, wegweiser said:

If you eventually score a set, here's a hot tip:

 

3.0 bavaria / E3 dog bowl hubcaps fit...and look completely awesome on these!

 

I did a trial run with some a few years ago on my own car. If I can find them, I might have photos of one test-mounted. Stay tuned!

 

 

I’d love to see the photos! Now I need the hubcaps too.

[wegweiser]

Here's the only photo I could find on my own rig... These were the 5" x 14" NK wheels... I'd recommend having them widened to 6" or more, in order to expand your tire options. 

[Conserv]

12 hours ago, wegweiser said:

Here's the only photo I could find on my own rig... These were the 5" x 14" NK wheels... I'd recommend having them widened to 6" or more, in order to expand your tire options. 

 

They do look great, Paul!  ?

 

So what are you thinking in terms of tire size, assuming you use the 5 x 14’s as found? 185/65/14? I believe a 195/60/14 is recommended for 5.5” to 7” rims, but I’d bet they’d work on a 5” rim....

 

Just curious.... ?

 

Best regards,

 

Steve

 

 

 

 

[Pouya]

I am thinking to have them widened to about 6" at most. Hard to find performance tires in 14" even harder than 13" BUT i can get 205/55/14. I wouldn't want to roll the fenders so I will have to make sure the offset is right when the wheels are made. I will be using GC coil over and ride lower than stock. 

4 minutes ago, Conserv said:

 

They do look great, Paul!  ?

 

So what are you thinking in terms of tire size, assuming you use the 5 x 14’s as found? 185/65/14? I believe a 195/60/14 is recommended for 5.5” to 7” rims, but I’d bet they’d work on a 5” rim....

 

Just curious.... ?

 

Best regards,

 

Steve

 

 

 

 

 

[wegweiser]

I think I recall finding a 185/60-14 in a decent compound. 

 

Direzza ZIII ? I mean...they LOOK sticky....no idea if they're actually any good. 

 

Compared to a 5 x 13 wheel.... the 5 x 14 looks SUPER scrawny. Just an observation.

 

I went with 5 x 13 tii steel wheels and early 1600 caps and I love it. Also love the Pirelli CN36 tires! SO much better than the dangerous in wet Khumo stuff I had on it last year. The Pirellis are a great handling tire that also look the part...not just a crappy and expensive retro tire. I actually DRIVE my car, so performance was important. No regrets! (185/70-13 currently)

[Pouya]

1 hour ago, wegweiser said:

I think I recall finding a 185/60-14 in a decent compound. 

 

Direzza ZIII ? I mean...they LOOK sticky....no idea if they're actually any good. 

 

Compared to a 5 x 13 wheel.... the 5 x 14 looks SUPER scrawny. Just an observation.

 

I went with 5 x 13 tii steel wheels and early 1600 caps and I love it. Also love the Pirelli CN36 tires! SO much better than the dangerous in wet Khumo stuff I had on it last year. The Pirellis are a great handling tire that also look the part...not just a crappy and expensive retro tire. I actually DRIVE my car, so performance was important. No regrets! (185/70-13 currently)

Yeah CN36s are great I have them on my cromodora magnesium wheels. 

Im building the s14b25 for this car.

Edited September 20, 2019 by Pouya

[Bmoreindy]

The Dunlop Direzza ZIII is a great street tire!

[jgerock]

13 minutes ago, Bmoreindy said:

The Dunlop Direzza ZIII is a great street tire!

I second this.  I had the ZII and now have the ZIII on my tii (185-60-14).

[adawil2002]

I thought I had a complete set with a set of hubcaps I was willing to sell. Unfortunately one of the wheels is different and the hubcap is too big. So I am looking for 1 14 x 5 NK wheel. 
 

by the way the Right Honorable Al  I bought the last wheel from, doesn’t have any more. 
 

 

Edited September 21, 2019 by adawil2002

[Conserv]

On 9/21/2019 at 6:51 AM, adawil2002 said:

I thought I had a complete set with a set of hubcaps I was willing to sell. Unfortunately one of the wheels is different and the hubcap is too big. So I am looking for 1 14 x 5 NK wheel. 
 

by the way the Right Honorable Al  I bought the last wheel from, doesn’t have any more. 
 

 

 

I was going to ask Andrew if I could enter these rims in our Wheels database. But — I should have known — Daniel (MOJOJOY) has already listed them, three years ago: Kronprinz 5715A (5”) and Kronprinz 5842A (4 1/2”)!

 

So these three need one more Kronprinz 5715A to complete a matched set of 5” rims. Or, possibly, a Lemmerz 1444 or 1446 (both 5” models). If the two widths of Kronprinz rims, 4 1/2” and 5”, however, do not accept the same hub cap, I’d wonder if a Kronprinz 5” and a Lemmerz 5” accept the same hub cap... ?

 

Regards,

 

Steve

 

Edited September 22, 2019 by Conserv

[dlhoovler]

And of course there are the 2000CS wheels, which are 14x5.5. I have a set of those on my car, with what I believe to be Bavaria hubcaps and cheap trim rings.

I put black Plastidip on them last year to hide a little rust creeping out from the seams - I'm not convinced powder coating is a good choice on steel wheels. I plan to mount up my 13x5 Opel Kadett early-tii lookalikes for a while and refinish the CS wheels eventually.

I also had a second set of CS/NK wheels that had been widened to 6" and the vent slots hogged out. I traded or sold them 15 or so years ago, however.

Pictures show the 14x5.5 wheels in silver powder coat a few years ago, and with the black dip and the trim rings. 185/65R14 tires.

-Dave


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[Conserv]

22 hours ago, dlhoovler said:

And of course there are the 2000CS wheels, which are 14x5.5. I have a set of those on my car, with what I believe to be Bavaria hubcaps and cheap trim rings.

I put black Plastidip on them last year to hide a little rust creeping out from the seams - I'm not convinced powder coating is a good choice on steel wheels. I plan to mount up my 13x5 Opel Kadett early-tii lookalikes for a while and refinish the CS wheels eventually.

I also had a second set of CS/NK wheels that had been widened to 6" and the vent slots hogged out. I traded or sold them 15 or so years ago, however.

Pictures show the 14x5.5 wheels in silver powder coat a few years ago, and with the black dip and the trim rings. 185/65R14 tires.

-Dave


 

 

Yes, Dave, that is a great look with the trim rings, and the black dip gives the appearance of greater “dish”.  Very nice. Any rubbing issues with 185/65’s? Are the fender lips stock?

 

Does anyone know the offset (ET) on the 4 1/2” through 5 1/2” NK rims?

 

Best regards,

 

Steve

 

 

Edited September 22, 2019 by Conserv

[dlhoovler]

 
Yes, Dave, that is a great look with the trim rings, and the black dip gives the appearance of greater “dish”.  Very nice. Any rubbing issues with 185/65’s? Are the fender lips stock?
 
Does anyone know the offset (ET) on the 4 1/2” through 5 1/2” NK rims?
 
Best regards,
 
Steve
 
 

Steve,

No rubbing at all, either before or after going from stock to H&R springs (though the stock springs sagged a lot, so the replacements didn't lower it much). My fenders are not rolled.

I don't know the offset; I can check the wheels sometime, but I recall it wasn't stamped into most steel BMW wheels of this era.

-Dave

Posted from my phone.