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The end goal is a M20 powered 2002. Square tail, turbo flares and fenders. Not a restoration by any means, but a recreation. I would love to someday add a turbo to the M20. Color is still up in the air, although I must admit lately I have been leaning towards LSB. My car ADD is well documented, but in a seemingly futile attempt to find a car that can keep my attention for more than a couple months I have gone back in time, way back. I picked up not one, but two BMW 2002's thanks to a little help from a friend. While it started out as a low budget purchase, ($500 for both cars) I'm sure that the whole restoration will be much closer to the $10,000 mark. Luckily I'm in no hurry to get it done. I plan on spending the next year or two auto geeking out about every single little detail of the car, and what I want to do with it. The green car shown below is going to the crusher now that we got all the good parts off of it. I'm now in the process of starting to strip the yellow one down to a rolling shell and then I'll save my pennies to ship it off for body work and a paint job. Any votes on what color to do it? If I get on the ball enough I'll be documenting the whole process here. Stay tuned....

Painting my car now and moving to Texas in July. I'll definitely be following this thread. Have you searched? It seems like I remember reading people's opinions about this already.

I know there have been some pretty tech ones built on the board. A few have done power locks, maybe even power windows. Remote trunk lock has been done too. There are plenty of people running megasquirt either with M10's or M20's. There is a great M20 build going on now that will have dry sump. Lot's of solid engineering in that build. I'd love to hear more about traction control. Is that something you can do with Vems or Megasquirt? I would love to have that and ABS on mine eventually for safety reasons.

Still planning on running factory turbo flares? I thought I was pushing my luck with my 205 and 225 setup.

Thanks for all the feedback. I've decided to do the Glasurit. Painting should start next week.

so they'll be 16x7.5 ET0 after adaptors that's going to need flares. big ones. Not too big. I run 18x8 et0 under standard turbo flares with 205's up front and 225 in the back.

Need more info. What is the original offset of the Fittipaldis before adaptors?

10" is wide. Good luck fitting that under flares, even with quite a bit of narrow tire poke.

Good input. Thanks. For what it's worth, it won't be metallic. Just good old 022 Inka Orange.

I agree that a lot the quality is in the execution. As far as water based, I do think they are getting better, but I'm under the impression that they still don't perform as well as their counterparts.

To be sure that no kittens were killed, my question is very specific. My car is finally ready to be painted, and I have been getting lots of quotes. It has already been sand blasted to bare metal which plays into the price significantly as it now needs to be etched, primed, filled, primed and then painted. The two best quotes I have received are as follows. The shop right next door to where my car is will spray the entire car in and out with a Glasurit single stage urethane enamel for $5,000. Another shop in town will spray the entire exterior and all visible interior parts with a two stage Sherwin Williams water based paint. They are proposing doing the hidden interior parts with a cheaper undercoating type of material. Price is the same at $5,000. I have been reading about single stage vs dual stage and it sounds like they both have pro's and cons. When it comes down to it if you use a high quality product and have good skills you can get good results with both. So my question is does anyone know how the two products (Glasurit single stage urethane enamel and Sherwin Williams water based) compare as far as quality? Which should I go with?

Finally got some lights in them. Also, got the thing on the ground. I have a little bit more adjustment on my coil over, but I don't think I'll want to go any lower. Those 225's really fill up the back fenders.[/img]

I'll check and get back to you.

The M20? Got a great deal, $375, only 75,000 miles.

I suppose I do have a few minor updates to give. Bonnevillians has been working on some small punch list items. They were able to tub out the inner fenders in the front so that my wheels now have clearance and my turning radius won't be effected. They did a real good job too. One front tire was hitting on the fender flare which was really bumming me out. I was questioning their work as they had the whole nose of and the fenders were loose. I was worried they welded it back up crooked. Turns out they just had the rear wheel on the front on that side. Easy fix. They were also able to finally get the front valence on. I was very pleased with this. I really went out of my way to get OEM flares and valence so the fit would be good. Also, the quad grills are pretty much done. They still need to work on getting the buckets all finished up. They are working on my rear suspension right now. The coilovers are a little longer than I had hoped. I'll have to have them dialed all the way down do get the tires to tuck in a little. Hopefully I still have plenty of travel. If not I'll have to try and get shorter ones from GC or raise my shock towers. FYI 16 x 205/50's up front and 225/50 rear is a lot of tire for this little guy. Here's a little peek of my custom rear subframe. Also, it's been a long time since I was under this car. I was please to see how clean and rust free it was under there. The diff of the 2002 can't handle the power I'm planning on. This subframe (made by 2002haus) uses an E30 diff (with E36 diff cover) and custom axles to make sure the power goes where it should. I also just took delivery of a 3.73 LSD that is ready to go in. It was really fun to compute all the RPM / speed based on all my miss matched parts. The 3.73 seems like a sweet spot for this project. Cruising speed (75mph) will put me at 3000 rpm. 90 is 3,600. It's very similar to my M3. It's a little taller maybe, but that should give me good MPG. Also, since I am ultimately going forced induction, I didn't want to go to short, as that doesn't give the turbo time to spool. Other pertinent RPM/MPH numbers. 60mph in second is 6,600rpm (stock redline starts at 6,250 most chips raise it between 6,500 and 6,900). Theoretical top speed, 5th gear 6600 rpm? 163, aka pooping pants.