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  1. That was me. I weighed my M10 before I sold it a few weeks ago. Came in at ~345lbs fully dressed, ready to run. I posted the link to the picture of the fully dressed aluminum M52 at ~355lbs. I'll make a new thread soon. Now with the more common iron block m50/m52/s50/s52, I would be a bit more careful. Going off internet hearsay but I believe the iron block 24v is about 30lbs heavier than the m20. The m20 weighs in right at ~400lbs proven. So now we're comparing 345 for the M10 versus ~430 for the iron 24v. You also have to consider the weight difference of the trannies. So thats a 85lbs difference, about 4% of the average '02s weight(2200lbs). Fiberglass hood saves you 30lbs, 45lbs down to ~15lbs. The rest can be tuned out with shocks and springs. If you really want the bee's knees you can put an S52 crank in alum M52 for a very light 3.0L.
  2. Thanks for the useless post and picture as usual C.D. This swap has been done. There is a S50 '02 running around on track here in TX, granted it has a lot more done to it as well. An aluminum M52 weighs 10lbs more than a M10. I have pictures. An M5X/S5X isnt much longer at all than a M20. They fit perfectly fine in a e30, radiator and all If you have the fab skills to put a 24v in an '02 then you have the fab skills to put a e30 rear subframe and diff in an '02. Once I get bored with my S14, which I figure will be soon, I will put an alum M52 in. Way more power, way more torque, lighter and cheaper than the S14. The only problem is that theyre somewhat hard to find.
  3. I was under the impression we were talking about a stock rebuild. My frustration came from the comment that the S14 is soooo complex that only a shop can touch it. There is no reason the average person with basic tools can't accomplish this in their garage. It is no more complex than a M10. If anything it's easier because of the lack of a carb. Of course when you start throwing Evo parts and other upgrades in the S14 the price becomes astronomical very quickly, especially in relation to the hp you get.
  4. Wow, that's just not true. My first big project with a wrench was a full rebuild of my S14. It was no harder than rebuilding my M20. I did a FULL rebuild with all new OEM BMW parts and it cost me less than half of what you stated. Congrats on doing your part to perpetuate the S14 internet myth.
  5. I'll probably go for it. 350rwtq from a M42 turbo sounds so amazing but the more I think about it, I really dont want to spend all the money/time/frustration it would take trying to get a turbo setup trackworthy. Although boy would it be a monster when you got all the heat and tuning issues sorted out. Cams plus intake/exhaust mods will get you a nice linear 250rwhp/220rwtq on the M52. Then you can throw in a S50 or S52 crank to get up to 2.9L and 3.0L respectively. Combine that with some head work, higher compression and custom tuning for race gas(for a racecar only of course) and you'd be knocking on 300rwhp. Just to be clear, the aluminum single vanos M52 is the only aluminum E36 motor and was only available in the 2.8L '97-'98 Z3(in the US). The E46 non-M motors are also aluminum but are double vanos, so slightly more complicated electronics-wise and the aftermarket is not as developed yet. DMod in BMWCCA club racing.
  6. No, you can usually find them for 500-700$ if you buy them separate.
  7. Good God, do some freaking research. http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/BMW_2002
  8. Amen, ordered a scale today. Might start a site compiling the data and pictures. Clear up all the 'I heard...'s. I've heard the same thing, we'll see how it turns out. Alum M52s go for 2-3k$. And its nice to keep it in the family.
  9. No offense but I dont believe the ETK. http://www.r3vlimited.com/board/showthread.php?t=99913&highlight=weight Weights verified by pictures in that thread. The weighing of the M42 by Vorshlag was also verified on another forum with pictures. Motors in full running condition with all ancillaries: M20 - 180kg M42 - 163kg M52alum ~ 155kg An alum M52 weighs less than a M42. I am guessing the M42 weighs a bit more than the M10 but not much. There is no way that there's 50-60lbs between an M10 and alumM52. I have a fully dressed M10 and S14 in the garage. I will purchase a hanging scale in the next few days and get some pictures up.
  10. I dont know of any M52s in a 2002. But I dont think mounting the motor in there would be that hard. At the very worst you'd have to get rid of the steering box, switch to a rack and fab up some custom motor mount arms. Somethings I plan on doing anyways to get the motor as low and far back as possible. Not that bad in the grand scheme of things. The displacement limit for the class I want to run in, D-mod, is 2.99L for NA motors or a 1.5x factor for boosted motors. So I wasnt considering boosting the M52. I do think that you would probably have to modify the inner fender to clear the turbo piping. Though it shouldnt be too bad. Yes, there is a lot regurgitation on bfc about the supposed dangers of boosting an alum M52. Yet there is a very reputable turbo kit builder out there, Technique Tuning, who is scheduled to release a kit for the e46 motors, which are of course aluminum. So unless youre planning on throwing 25+ psi at it, I think you should be fine. 12psi on a properly sized turbo on an M52 should get you 350-400rwhp, which is going to feel like the hand of God in your '02.
  11. Wow, so much misinformation in this thread as usual. Look here for starters: http://forums.bimmerforums.com/forum/showthread.php?t=698624 Ive been trying to decide between an M42 turbo and an aluminium M52 for my future Dmod car. Seems fairly straightforward to get 350rwhp/350rwtq at about 15psi outta the M42. But for half the price and headaches I can get 250rwhp/220rwtq out of the M52. Both wont add more than 30lbs over the M10.
  12. Why are you asking about engine swaps when you don't even know what motor is in your car currently?
  13. Hmmmmm, I wonder which kit youre talking about? Care to retort Lee?
  14. For the millionth time, it's not an M motor. Its an M54 from an e46 330i. And I bet an M54 could swapped into a '02 for less than $5k. Oh and its ~45 lbs lighter than a M20.
  15. Wow, what a close-minded asinine comment. Maybe you should enlighten yourself with some of the 1000+hp 02's the Swedes are putting out.
  16. Are the WallothNesch floor pans real OEM parts? I see the Jaymic ones are copies yet people seem to be pleased with them. Also found Mike Pelly as a floor resource from searching. Anyone bought one from him? His are copies correct? Cant find the pans on the Maximillian site. I assume they dont carry them anymore?
  17. You spend a fair bit of time on this forum but do you actually ever read anything besides what you write yourself? There have been numerous M2 conversions done by shops in the US. And the whole 'keep it stock' advice is quite annoying. If he wants to put a more modern motor which makes twice the output stock for stock AND maintains the '02s lovely weight distribution, then why discourage him?
  18. What specific sand blasting equipment are you using Pete?
  19. What's the name of the shop that makes these?
  20. You should make and sell additional sets of front/rear fenders to help defray costs a bit. I'm sure there would be plenty of interest.
  21. Here's the math all laid out for you. The difference btw 15deg and 12deg, shown on page 2, is pretty substantial. http://www.e30m3performance.com/tech_articles/susp-tech/rear_curves/index.htm And I would hardly call e30 calipers 'proper'. Theyre still sliding calipers.
  22. I'd say the biggest reason for doing this should be to go from a 20 degree trailing arm angle to a 15 degree angle. Makes a huge difference in the toe/camber gain under suspension compression.
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