'Honu' #2588935

[stevebo77]

So a booboo happened; in case you missed the saga, read it over at http://www.bmw2002faq.com/component/option,com_forum/Itemid,50/page,viewtopic/t,340300/

Luckily, this forum and its members came to the rescue as always. Replacement rear glass will be shipping from bimmer7602 in the next few days

Progress:

I pulled the rear window out with great ease and success that day. The rubber was horrific and so was the channel and parcel shelf. The shelf material was soaked and sitting in water; the crappy 6x9 speakers that were still in the (expanding) holes were literally FILLED with water. Yanked everything and got to work with grinding all that business out of there.

Photos:

The situation

http://picasaweb.google.com/sthryniuk/1973BMW2002#5460093302965543106

http://picasaweb.google.com/sthryniuk/1973BMW2002#5460093352623521026

So much moisture.. so stinky.

http://picasaweb.google.com/sthryniuk/1973BMW2002#5460093328982066322

Proof that I didn't break it while extracting

http://picasaweb.google.com/sthryniuk/1973BMW2002#5460093382367458818

Holes revealed

http://picasaweb.google.com/sthryniuk/1973BMW2002#5460093157837523250

Channel and shelf getting cleaned up

http://picasaweb.google.com/sthryniuk/1973BMW2002#5460093181428308306

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Measuring the holes/surrounding panel for patch cutting

http://picasaweb.google.com/sthryniuk/1973BMW2002#5460093118573600450

Oooo ahhhhh, patch panels were welded over the trimmed and cleaned speaker holes, sound deadening material overlayed on that. Rust on the inside C-pillars taken care of.

http://picasaweb.google.com/sthryniuk/1973BMW2002#5460092981785809602

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[stevebo77]

Got the new exhaust tip in the mail today. I like it!

Here's some shots of its initial dry fitting; after some finish grinding and smoothing, this will sit a tiny bit higher and nicer in the slot.

http://picasaweb.google.com/sthryniuk/1973BMW2002#5460485748390641282

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[kota02]

Awesome job.

I have been getting my 02 in better shape following the same philosophy.

After I patched the holes in my floor pans, I also thought about using the aluminum strip with tar backing. I was not sure if I would be able to get it off if I needed to. Is that the same thing that you have used for sound damping?

I would appreciate if you could point me in the right direction.

Thanks,

Akshay

[stevebo77]

Heya!

Yeah you bet- I use just what you described there. It's aluminum backed sticky tar type stuff, about 8~10 inches wide and in rolls of 30 feet. It's pretty aggressive when it comes to sticking, but I did find that it will come off with a little hairdryer heat if necessary. I recently had to pull some off to gain access to a floor pan for a small area project and it worked fine with heat.

I did some lowbrow ear tests while I was originally installing that stuff after repairing and painting the floorpans. Knocking with my hand on the bare side of the car had an expected metal bang sound, while knocking on the tarred side of the car gave a pleasant thumping sound.

Best of luck.

Awesome job.

I have been getting my 02 in better shape following the same philosophy.

After I patched the holes in my floor pans, I also thought about using the aluminum strip with tar backing. I was not sure if I would be able to get it off if I needed to. Is that the same thing that you have used for sound damping?

I would appreciate if you could point me in the right direction.

Thanks,

Akshay

[stevebo77]

Exhaust is in and I'm thrilled!

All the tubing arrived this week but the second magnaflow round muffler never shipped. I cancelled that part of the order since I'm impatient- that actually turned out to be a good thing in this situation, because the exhaust note and volume are perfect right now.

I learned from this task that welding stainless tubing with my little wirefeed welder is way easier than any other weld I have ever done. Every butt-welded tube was perfect, I never have that kind of luck

Picked up a couple of sheets of MDF last night so I can get to work on the rear seat delete. So many ideas running around in my head on this project.. need to start putting something down on paper before I go saw crazy.

Pics:

http://picasaweb.google.com/sthryniuk/1973BMW2002#5461594100304646162

http://picasaweb.google.com/sthryniuk/1973BMW2002#5461594124403354514

Headliner out while waiting for new one.

http://picasaweb.google.com/sthryniuk/1973BMW2002#5461594111032705394

[stevebo77]

Taped out some lines for how I imagine the rear seat delete + box thingy.

I plan to have that slanted part hinged so that it can lift to reveal a similar profiled box beneath (lockable and hidden speaker/amp compartment!). It would hinge from the shelf area and under there would be a sub of whatever size I end up going with and amp. Two 6.5"s on the extended shelf. On the vertical part, right above the floor, would be two ports for bass and amp ventilation.

Not sure how to have a stealthy locking method here.. will stare at it some more.

Pics:

http://picasaweb.google.com/sthryniuk/1973BMW2002#5461631713761009538

http://picasaweb.google.com/sthryniuk/1973BMW2002#5461631728092034658

Photoshopped:

http://picasaweb.google.com/sthryniuk/1973BMW2002#5461631696306691170

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[HarryPR]

I like your idea for the rear parcel shelf/seat area. Go for it!

[stevebo77]

Screw it, that's all the encouragement I need!

Just pulled the trigger on my amazon shopping cart; stereo, speakers, wiring, etc on their way now

Time to get carpenter-ing.

*edit*: annnnd a new carpet set from only02.com ordered. Might as well do it all and replace my hand-folded/molded cheap stuff.

I like your idea for the rear parcel shelf/seat area. Go for it!

[CutteRug]

Your whole entire project is pretty rad... My only suggestion with the rear seat delete is to make it more the shape of a regular rear seat, if for no other reason than to be able to throw a couple of bags in there..

Really nice, when taking a lady on a weekend getaway road trip in one's fine German automobile to not arrive at the destination with gasoline-smelling (see: stored in the trunk) luggage.

Just a thought. Keep up the good work!

Adam

[stevebo77]

Well thank you! And I will definitely keep that in mind- no harm in doing some more mockups to see what it should look like before laying saw to wood.

Your whole entire project is pretty rad... My only suggestion with the rear seat delete is to make it more the shape of a regular rear seat, if for no other reason than to be able to throw a couple of bags in there..

Really nice, when taking a lady on a weekend getaway road trip in one's fine German automobile to not arrive at the destination with gasoline-smelling (see: stored in the trunk) luggage.

Just a thought. Keep up the good work!

Adam

[stevebo77]

Whirlwind two days of awesome!

My new black headliner from goliners on ebay arrived in the mail yesterday, glass from Sean (bimmer7602 here on the forums) arrived on Friday night.

I BLEW through the headliner install in 5 hours (seriously). Not having binderclips or clothesline clips didn't stand in my way; I used all of the old plastic edge trim to clamp the headliner to the metal edges while its glue set. Perfect solution!

Glass guys drove out to my house this morning and installed the glass in just a handful of minutes, it was ridiculous how fast they were.

I also received the new plastic edge trim from JC Whitney this morning. Got it in black and it truly trims out the new headliner so beautifully (my old stuff was tan/grey and weathered looking). BTW, if you ever order it, 40 feet (or two rolls) should do the trick for you. Here is the product from them, I couldn't find it anywhere else!

Edit 1 day later: That trim is called "pinchwelt".. never knew that. Probably would have made it easier to shop for than random google searches descriptions of that stuff

Today I learned something by accident while trying to reinstall my door seals. Failed several times at just trying to jam the lip under the aluminum rail and couldn't figure out how one is supposed to install it. To install the door seals, you have to start the lip in the track at the front of the door and slowly slide it up the channel with lots of lube (windex in my case). Took about 25 minutes to get one seal on- worth it (see photos at bottom of this post for what I'm saying). Maybe I'm the last to know about this

Totally a sidebar, but I finally found what car these seats came out of: ~'85 Alpina B6! Too bad the seats are so rough though.

Major thanks to Sean for the glass, you're a lifesaver.

Pics:

Initial setting in of the glass.

http://picasaweb.google.com/sthryniuk/1973BMW2002#5462329494794040626

Bearded master and his young trainee peforming the pull-slap.

http://picasaweb.google.com/sthryniuk/1973BMW2002#5462329479390559970

More slapping for good measure.

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With his cool tool he begins the lockstrip install.

http://picasaweb.google.com/sthryniuk/1973BMW2002#5462329446192612018

He had to start over and redo that bottom right corner.

http://picasaweb.google.com/sthryniuk/1973BMW2002#5462329412978520338

Cruising right along now.

http://picasaweb.google.com/sthryniuk/1973BMW2002#5462329430133695026

Young padawan checks out the chrome strip and is impressed.

http://picasaweb.google.com/sthryniuk/1973BMW2002#5462329392209460994

Clean up time.

http://picasaweb.google.com/sthryniuk/1973BMW2002#5462329378011680850

Beauty shots. Love that BMW Club of Kobe graphic! .. man I could go for a hamburger...

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http://picasaweb.google.com/sthryniuk/1973BMW2002#5462329349512919922

Hello new headliner! A little wrinkle there in the driver corner, can still pull it back if I'm lucky.

http://picasaweb.google.com/sthryniuk/1973BMW2002#5462329316695565026

Door seals installation:

Start the seal in the track at the bottom (where the sail window is pointing is where the track begins). Apply lots of lube (windex here) and start moving it up. Up to this point it goes really fast.

http://picasaweb.google.com/sthryniuk/1973BMW2002#5462359802413585106

10 minutes later. Inch by inch it goes; pull the seal rearwards a bit, until you see the front corner start to stretch, then push more up from the bottom of the channel. Continue to pull, push, pull push little by little.

http://picasaweb.google.com/sthryniuk/1973BMW2002#5462359788599990882

Before you close the final gap, seat that vertical section's lip into its channel.

http://picasaweb.google.com/sthryniuk/1973BMW2002#5462359772110030194

Then as you make the final pulls it will wedge in. Install the new plastic edgetrim on the interior edge, locking in the seal from behind. Job done!

http://picasaweb.google.com/sthryniuk/1973BMW2002#5462359763578139234

[bimmer7602]

Good to know everything got there safely, did you also get the window latch?

Sean

[stevebo77]

I sure did, and thanks for that as well.

Now to figure out what kind of hardware I can find at Ace or Home Depot to connect the glass to the latch. Thinking a rubber grommet of some sort and a small/thin carriage bolt? Could work!

Much better than the old steel wire that has always been holding the window shut

Good to know everything got there safely, did you also get the window latch?

Sean

[bimmer7602]

I'll look for it when i get a chance, i'll send it over in an envelope when i find it. it's just so small and looking through 5 boxes of misc stuff is a daunting task. If there's anything else just let me know.

Sean

[stevebo77]

Ohhh don't look too hard. I'll certainly appreciate it if you find it, but I can probably come up with something simple without having oem pieces (or.. why start keeping it stock now? hehe).

I'll look for it when i get a chance, i'll send it over in an envelope when i find it. it's just so small and looking through 5 boxes of misc stuff is a daunting task. If there's anything else just let me know.

Sean