I give up. I need a new car.

[Poon]

Alright, I've finally had it. I cannot repair this car. There is so much rust I keep finding it's unbelievable. It's a shame because I didn't even get to drive the car. Here are the ugly pictures.

The car really didnt look that bad when I bought it a year ago.

But it was bad.

Driver side rocker.

Driver side rear.

Inside floor pan, drivers side left corner.

Passenger side floor.

Passenger side framerail.

Passenger side rocker panel.

As you guys can tell, its about as bad as it gets. Anyone in the Vancouver/Surrey area have an '02 for sale? I'm looking for something rust free. I don't think I can deal with anymore rust. Hoping to get a roundie, but I don't mind square tail lights. Looking for a daily driver. Anyways thanks for reading guys. I just needed to show someone the bad news.

Thanks - Andrew Poon

[Guest Anonymous]

That is so sad and it looked so nice in the first pictures. good luck

[Simon]

Andrew,

This one has been on Craig's list for a bit, perhaps you could negotiate a lower price...

http://vancouver.craigslist.ca/car/526751028.html

Then there is this nice Tii, except if it's the one I looked at last year the headliner is painted black...

http://vancouver.craigslist.ca/car/539900224.html

Simon

[canadapierre]

smart move! although I hate to see them get crushed, there isn't much there to play with. It's worth it to shop in California for a good body. Not many rust free ones here...

Are you parting the white one out? If so, I need a few parts.

Pierre

[Arshloch]

Well, that car needs about 5000 budget dollars worth of body work. + That thing also needs the towers patched up.

Part it out. I ve previously mentioned, the thing has $500 carbs, $250 header, $250 eibach springs +bilsteins, a momo, good trans and what appears to be good motor. All you need is a car with good body/shot running gear and you are all set.

If you would like to part that thing, we will be very glad to come and grab some goodies.

You have to import a car from the states in order to get a solid vehicle. I did that and got a semi-solid car even though it's a cali car. Thats the way it's with these cars, they are almost never rust free, as I had a few rust spots developing after a year in my possession.

Forget the Canadian 02s, they are all rust buckets unless repaired.

Also that green car on craigslist has been for sale from last year.Someone might have bought it because it was $4500 at first. It's overpriced for a 76 , while that blue car is nothing special and again overpriced. During the last year I have not happened to find a nice solid 02 here in BC under $10k.

[Schweineback]

Just a tip, but if you can only get a square tail light version: use the rear panel of the car you got now and weld that in the new one. And while you're at it, give it the kidney transplant. Hey, and maybe even use the VIN! But that would be illegal of course...

[c.d.iesel]

....that is a shame - but could come right if

you don't give up. Roll the sad patient over like this and

it will be possible and less daunting. Read and LOOK

at all the resources like Bill William's, Matt McGinn's,

KEITH'S " my2002tii " restoration techniques. Those

3 people have all the photos and can answer all your

questions- to have the bottom side look as good as

the top side. You also learned a lot already and now

know what to watch out for on the next one.

http://www.my2002tii.com/

http://www.sports-car-restoration.com/

[snowflake]

Get a buddy to help you,

Take a week or two and go crazy, order 2 new rocker panals form maxamillian importing some sheet metal and just hack it together, it doesn't have to be perfect, it's not really that hard,

just make it work.

[dubois]

Just get a 76 from CA:

http://sfbay.craigslist.org/pen/car/542971309.html

http://sfbay.craigslist.org/eby/car/537960864.html

these are just (2) random samples, but if you are patient, there are more and better for less. The only reason to weld that much is .... sorry I can't think of one!

[Paul7002]

I replaced: bilateral fenders, rockers, frame rails, lower A-pillars, shock towers, rear sub-frame mounts, parts of both quarter panels, and the nose. the A-pillar and sub-frame patches had to come from Jaymic. Everything else I got from Max.

Actually, I paid to have all that done (inheritance from Grandma), although I helped a fair amount in putting it all back together. It was very expensive because I lacked the skills and facilities to do it myself. But, mine is a family car that I grew up with with lots of sentimental value. Otherwise, I never would have done it. If I had a random 02 project car today, I'd get somebody (Brad) to teach me how to weld and give it a shot

CD's suggestion is a good one if you can get or make a rotisserie and can stand to stick with it. Otherwise, find a nice donor body and start the swap.

[Poon]

I think I'll start looking for a new car. I don't have the space for a rotisserie, and I want a project I can drive and work on,Hoping to spend around $4000 - $5000 and get a relatively sold driver. Thinking about it, I don't really mind a little bit of welding, as long as it's not structural( which mine definitely was). That only problem with buying a car from California is it's in California. Ugh. I'll just have to wait and see what comes up I guess.

[hplug]

I have a '72 verona tii I am selling and a 74 fjord both are desert rust free cars. FYI

[BillyRay]

1973 tii non original motor? Going back to ebay in the near future. Decent start point for a resto or Hotrod. Drop me a line at:smallfastforeign@aol.com for photos.

Best Regards, "Z"

[PatAllen]

id say fix that up, because it can.

Ive fixed much more horible cars in the past and they are still on the road.

The car will never be new anyway, neither 02 are, unless it is fresh out of the factory, like that inka Tii we all know

it also depends on what kind of 02 you want, a pristine new fully restored or just one that works and looks nice ?

[Arshloch]

I have seen that sick little 02 in person when contemplated buying it. She needs complete rocker replacement. The hacking might not help this much here. These floors are easy to fix, but the rockers will kill it. The body will need reenforcement supports welded in, plus the rear 1/4 lips are showing signs of cancer-might as well do the 1/4 panels. So that figures that half of the car needs to be replaced. This will probably require a $1k mig welder or a TIG and years of effort/skills to do properly, so might as well restore the whole car (justifiable option). Also the cost of a paint job has been ignored all along.