IE Swaybar adjustment opinions needed

[Johnny Riviera]

Hello,

 

Swapped from ST sways to Ireland, and was wondering how people are setting them up. I have the front on the outer holes, the rear started 3/4 from the ends like IE recommended to start. I slid the rears in about another 3/4 inch and it seems to have neutralized the understeer. After seeing pics from autocross it still seem to have more lean than I thought. I am thinking of moving the front to the inner holes and adjusting the rear accordingly. Which hole are most people using on the front?

 

The rest of my setup is Billy Sports and Bav Auto springs

 

Any feedback is appreciated,

 

Thanks,

 

John

[Doug Riparetti]

For the rear bar, measure from the back side of the sway bar link to the rear of the bar.

 

For the front, put the links in the front hole.

 

[Johnny Riviera]

Thanks for the reply Doug! I was wondering if the front hole was too aggressive, so I went conservative but I guess it doesn’t hurt to try. Now I’ll just need to figure out the corresponding amount to move the rear links forward to get the same balance. 

[Schnellvintage]

Depending on how low your car is or more specifically your lower control arm’s initial angle, you want some lean to utilize the geometry angles of the camber from the movement or swing of the lower control arm.
"Tune to Win" by Carroll Smith is an excellent book on setting up suspensions, among other topics.. Enjoy [emoji4]
Matt


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Edited June 6, 2018 by Schnellvintage
additional info

[TobyB]

Uhh, body roll just makes the lack of adequate front camber gain in roll worse.  That's why

we start with insanely high static front camber, and THEN add the

lower ball joint spacers.  If the 2002 had remotely enough camber gain, we'd LOVE to

start with about -1 degree.

 

As to the bar stiffness itself, the holes aren't going to change your lean angle enough to notice.

They're more for tuning under- and oversteer, as you've used them.

 

Body roll in a 2002 is reduced with springs, and the abovementioned camber spacers,

which help (to some degree) restore the front roll center to someplace reasonable.

[Schnellvintage]

Toby, you explained it better, as I just finished a 19 hour work day. Starting out with good camber setting is a must.! Thanks for better explaining it.
Matt


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[Johnny Riviera]

Great info guys! I know I am camber challenged, I have the fixed camber plates that add a little, but nowhere near what is needed. This is mainly a street car, and going stiffer on springs isn’t what I would prefer to do, as it is already pretty firm, so I may just have to live with the compromise. 

 

Also so I haven’t gone adjustable camber plates as it is my understanding they raise ride height a bit. I have thought about Bavaria lower control arms though.