Door Window Installation Sequence

[visionaut]

5 minutes ago, M3This said:

i looked but couldnt find the sizes. But i feel like their site is hard to navigate so maybe looking in the wrong place 🤷🏻‍♂️

White looks 1/4” ID x 1/4” long, so https://www.mcmaster.com/6389K352

 

Black looks to be 6mm ID x 5mm long with 10mm OD. They only show 4mm and 6mm length, and only in off-white. Get a 6mm and shave a mm?

https://www.mcmaster.com/6389K713

 

 

[bergie33]

1 hour ago, M3This said:

Hi Karl,

 

is that for these:

 

 

or the rubber grommets that go in the door locks? As im looking for those above that go in the glass. 

 

Oh, sorry. That's the rubber grommets. 

[M3This]

2 hours ago, visionaut said:

White looks 1/4” ID x 1/4” long, so https://www.mcmaster.com/6389K352

 

Black looks to be 6mm ID x 5mm long with 10mm OD. They only show 4mm and 6mm length, and only in off-white. Get a 6mm and shave a mm?

https://www.mcmaster.com/6389K713

 

 

i think the 2nd ones might work but the the first i dont think will as it needs to 1/4” OD with  5/32” ID (i guess thats the diameter of a #8 screw) and 1/4” long. 
 

thanks for showing me these though 

[visionaut]

17 minutes ago, M3This said:

1/4” OD with  5/32” ID (i guess thats the diameter of a #8 screw) and 1/4”

Sorry I misread it.

 

Whether you can use a slightly different size depends on how it’s used in the window. What’s the critical dimension? Length? ID or OD? Whats not critical to it’s function can likely have a different dimension…

 

[M3This]

38 minutes ago, visionaut said:

Sorry I misread it.

 

Whether you can use a slightly different size depends on how it’s used in the window. What’s the critical dimension? Length? ID or OD? Whats not critical to it’s function can likely have a different dimension…

 

i think the black ones are for #20 in the image below but not sure what the white ones are used for. 
 

I havent gotten into the install yet as was just trying to make sure ingather all the parts first. 

Edited February 3 by M3This

[zambo]

2 hours ago, visionaut said:

White looks 1/4” ID x 1/4” long, so https://www.mcmaster.com/6389K352

 

Black looks to be 6mm ID x 5mm long with 10mm OD. They only show 4mm and 6mm length, and only in off-white. Get a 6mm and shave a mm?

https://www.mcmaster.com/6389K713

 

 

Given these are about the same size  - imperial v/s metric differences aside - does it seem odd one is under a buck and the other is over nine?

[zambo]

1 hour ago, M3This said:

i think the 2nd ones might work but the the first i dont think will as it needs to 1/4” OD with  5/32” ID (i guess thats the diameter of a #8 screw) and 1/4” long. 
 

thanks for showing me these though 

Correct me if I’m wrong but the white ones where the #8 screw is referenced are for the split pin that goes through the window glass support rail. So fitting the split pin (cotter) that’s the minimum ID I assume. 

Edited February 3 by zambo

[M3This]

13 minutes ago, zambo said:

Correct me if I’m wrong but the white ones where the #8 screw is referenced are for the split pin that goes through the window glass support rail. So that’s the minimum ID I assume. 

would that be #5 below?

 

[M3This]

Also based on realoem the black ones look like they are available from BMW but if the white ones are #5 above they are not. 

[zambo]

8 minutes ago, M3This said:

would that be #5 below?

 

… that’s my take on the earlier posters image of the two types of plastic bushes. There were only three locations on the window I found the old bushes with #5 being one location. 
 

As an aside, there is also a small plastic bush of a very similar nature on the rear quarter window as well. 

Edited February 3 by zambo

[M3This]

1 minute ago, zambo said:

… that’s my take on the earlier posters image of the two types of plastic bushes. There were only three locations on the window I found the old ones, #5 being one location. 
 

As an aside, there is also a small plastic bush of a very similar nature on the rear quarter window as well. 

Thanks for confirming that. Maybe i can  email MCMaster about the white ones and just suck it up and order the black ones from BMW

[zambo]

3 minutes ago, M3This said:

Thanks for confirming that. Maybe i can  email MCMaster about the white ones and just suck it up and order the black ones from BMW

Hopefully BMW are charging less than 9 bucks 🤞. 

[zambo]

Just been discussing this on our Aussie 02 forum and consensus was the originals for the black ones were in fact metal in order to prevent glass crush due to over tightening.
 

I wasn’t aware of this tbh as what dropped out of mine during disassembly were plastic type material. 
 

Suggestion was capillary tube a la refrigeration supplies was the solution.