RIP Toyo RA1 205/60R13

[Johnny Riviera]

Just got off the phone with Tire Rack and Toyo. 205/60R13 RA1 discontinued

 

Haven't tried R888’s but hear people don’t like them as much. 

[TobyB]

awww, that's not going to be good...  are the 225-55's still in production?

 

Keep in mind that the RA1's been 'discontinued' many times before,

and... well, here we are.

 

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[Johnny Riviera]

Not sure on that size. Tire Rack said “several” sizes, Toyo didn’t elaborate much past  the 205/60’s

Edited November 3, 2020 by Johnny Riviera

[Johnny Riviera]

Does anyone have experience with either the R888 or R888R vs RA1 on our cars? They also make the RR, but dry only. 

 

I was running Federal’s on my street wheels, and RA1’s on another set for Autocross. 

 

Thinking about switching to to R888’s for street/wet autocross and RR’s for dry autocross. 

 

I know the answer is 15’s but I love me some 13’s on these cars!

[M3M3]

didn't think they made the R888's anymore. the R888R was the replacement.

 

have used them. they suck.  more stick than an RA1, but they heat cycle out in about 12-15 heat cycles.  lots of rubber left for a while after that, but the competitive sticky drops like a rock.  NOT a good tire in the rain.

 

RR's really suck compared to the competition in that TW rating range.  poor turn in, squeal like a pig, big slip angles.

 

this opinion based on extensive track time and SCCA racing used on a 2002(M2) and several E30 325iS's.

[Johnny Riviera]

Well, thanks for the experienced feedback. It echoes what I’ve heard from others as far as the 888’s go.  I loved the RA1’s and told Toyo they discontinued the wrong tire. 

[Johnny Riviera]

Now on the hunt to try to save my 13's. Anybody run the Avon Cr6ZZ's? "Street legal vintage road race tire"

 

They make a 185/70r13. About the same height as the 205/60's but a touch narrower. (Might be able to get rid of my spacers up front!

 

Pricey, but 80 treadwear! (sticky)

 

Durability is not my main concern, but looking for a tire I can run dry and wet

[Johnny Riviera]

May have found an RA1 replacement!

 

http://hoosiertirewest.com/hoosier-vintage-historic-205-60r13-speedster

 

If in the market for racing tires, call Roger Krauss racing..can't say enough how helpful these guys were, and super willing to find a solution!

 

https://rogerkrausracing.com

[Oldtimerfahrer]

Does anyone run the Yokohama A048 (190/580 R13)? I was thinking about the Avons as well.

Andrew