2002ti original in Germany

[Guest Anonymous]

Hi,

I have a 1970 chamonix white 2002ti for sale. The car had been laid off between 1989 and 2005 before it was registered again in Germany on historic plates. The car is very original on Solex carbs. It has a period sports steering wheel, interior is blue but drivers seat has been changed once and is black. The car is very solid, visible rust is at the bottom of the left front wing and the right rear wheelarch, otherwise bodywork looks good. The engine starts and runs fine. Can be used as is! Price is 15k USD or highest bid. I am sure in a few years BMW nuts will say "If only I had bought this one...". Have some pics here

http://fotoalbum.web.de/gast/mk4spitonly/BMW_2002ti_Baujahr_1970

[moshulupkwy]

What is the reason for blocking out the VIN??

-mpkwy

[vinceinIL]

Certainly looks real, no question there. More detailed pictures and information would be really needed to interest any serious buyers, especially if they are in the USA due to transport cost.

vince

[Guest Anonymous]

Reason for xxxing the VIN are the people who use your car for scams. No question the car is a real and honest TI, I have the old German title which says 2002TI and the VIN is correct. This is a real original car with correct numbers and paperwork, was registered in Germany on historic plates until last week!

[hanksjim1]

I would have thought it would go for a lot more overseas than the US.

[Guest Anonymous]

someone in the US has offered me 10k Euros but wants to send a deposit of 500 USD so I should hold back the car until Dec 15 for final payment - could this be a scam? My idea was to find out the value of this car by advertising it internationally and locally....

[BillyRay]

Anything could be a scam but this doesn't really smell bad. If the deposit is so the prospective buyer has time to complete a PPI and you are willing to hold it off the market for the specified time? I think you may get your asking price with more detailed photos and more details, for example, does the car have any other options, CR 5sp, QR steering box, LSD. What type of seats? what condition is the steering wheel in? etc. Spend some more time describing the car and you will realize a better price. From what I can see in the photos you do have posted it appears to be in at least fair condition rust wise. The Cognoscenti will want photos of the rear strut towers, engine detail at the very least and when you are trying to sell a ti, the devil is in the details.

JMHO, Z

[Guest Anonymous]

HI Billy,

yes I understand. All pictures I have taken so far are here:

https://fotoalbum.web.de/gast/mk4spitonly/BMW_2002ti_Baujahr_1970

in my opinion this is an honest car which shows its age. Why not leave it as it is? I like this originality more than a restored example!

[jgerock]

HI Billy,

yes I understand. All pictures I have taken so far are here:

https://fotoalbum.web.de/gast/mk4spitonly/BMW_2002ti_Baujahr_1970

in my opinion this is an honest car which shows its age. Why not leave it as it is? I like this originality more than a restored example!

Logistically difficult - would you consider trading your ti for this VW?

I would like to own a real ti, but things haven't worked out that way so far.

[Sam_in_SC]

If you hold title until the money is wired, you have no risk. The risk is with the buyer. Price seems reasonable considering the extra 2-3000 dollars for shipping. Recession is keeping prices down on lots of classics unless they are perfect. Since the ti has more value in Europe than the USA and yours has not sold quickly....this should tell you something. How is the economy in Germany? I know the ti is rare but no doubt it has rust if it spent its life in Germany Takes a lot guts to buy a car sight unseen. Good luck.

[JiminWV]

Reineruno...yes it looks like an honest car...but you can't just leave it like it is. The rust you see today is multiplying as I type this message. Sell it to someone that can afford to save it. Just my opinion. I know it is rare but only the best examples of any 2002s bring the big dollars. This includes the 2002tii and 2002ti.

[paulhall]

That is certainly a great car and if I opt this I don't think it would be a bad deal. What average does the car provide?

[Guest Anonymous]

Hi Sam,

I got the car from a friend and have it only for two weeks now....I know it could be restored but why not leave it as it is by treating the rust with OWATROL so it will keep the status quo. I do not want to swap it as I have enough cars in my garage (TR6, Lotus Elise, Spitfire, 560SL...)

[JiminWV]

It is not the OUTSIDE Rust...it is the INSIDE rust that will be the problem. Nothing short of taking the car apart or patching with metal will do the trick.

However....I wish you luck with selling your car. Lots of folks would be happy to take a ti a part just to restore it.

[leadphut]

This is an excellent car for restoration.

OP - Tell your potential buyer that the $500 is non-refundable after a period of time - say 10 days. That will help determine whether the person is serious.

Good luck! If you were closer, I would definitely have the car inspected for purchase.