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Sorry I missed your post. I agree with your appraisal of the magazine. I cancelled my subscription when Dave Coleman basically walked away. I did buy this issue and I'll buy the next one because I love the concept of the USCC. As for recommendations, Grassroots Motorsports and Classic Motorsports (same publisher) are well worth the money. Pick up an issue or 2 on the news stand and I think you'll be hooked. I'll go find your post and see what there is to read. Sorry for not catching it before I posted this. Later! Pete

Anyone manage to figure out all those acronyms? Me neither and I wrote them. A publication that I enjoy, but may be new to the forum readers is called Sport Compact Car. They have a competition called the Ultimate Street Car Challenge. There is a long selection process that involves reader input as well as editorial recommendatons. In the end, 10 cars are selected to compete in the USCC. They're judged on car show appeal, drivability, gas mileage, engineering, horsepower at the wheels, 1/4 mile speed, road course laps, braking, skid pad and gross display of horsepower (a rather objective measure). It makes for interesting reading and is enough of a big deal that the USCC is covered in at least 2 issues... one to introduce the candidates, the other to show the results. There's usually a Skyline GTR, MkIV Supra Turbo and something exotic. There's always at least one front wheel drive car and at least one AWD car. Lately they've always had at least one european car as well as either an American car or something japanese with a pushrod V8 transplanted into it. I think this year has all of the above-listed cars in it. One reason that I'm telling you about this is that I noticed there is a BMW 2002 in the bunch. It has an M20 transplant and a lot of other cool stuff done to it. I haven't seen any threads on this topic, so I figured I'd enter one. If you get a chance to pick up the magazine, it might be an interesting read. next month's will be better though..... it is the one with the results in it. Later! Pete

Just thought y'all might want to look at this thing. It ran very well and was quite competitive. 1971 BMW 2002 ti Link to a huge animated GIF of this 02 Pete

This post is along time overdue. Work and mountain biking season have teamed up to dispose of all of my time. We had a beautiful weekend and I just couldn’t resist spending half a day scraping sound-deadening material out of the inside of my bimmer. What a horrible process. I started with the floors in the back of the car. That was best done by using the dry ice method. I had three bags of dry ice that I set on different spots on the floor. After they’d been there a few minutes, I moved one and chipped out the sound deadening material from under it. Then I’d move the next bag and chip out what was under it, and so on. I probably would have done better with just two bags of dry ice. Three was overkill. The part of the car behind the back rest of the rear seat was easier and harder at the same time. The dry ice didn’t really help here. I just took the scraper and scraped it off. The stuff was still gooey, but it came of pretty cleanly. It left some adhesive film on the metal, but I should be able to get that off with some goof-off and elbow grease. It scraped off pretty easily. I got both rear sections of floor done and about 60% of the seat back area. I still need to do the part of the wheel wells that poke into the cabin. I’m contemplating taking the sunroof framing out. I read the article in Grassroots Motorsports about their spec E30 build and they said it was pretty easy. There are a few spot welds and a bunch of glue to be removed. I looked at the 2002 and it is close to the same. There are metal tabs that come out from the corner of the roof to meet the sunroof frame. My sunroof panel is currently glued in place with Permatex adhesive silicone sealant. There are a few guide screws that press up on the panel from the sunroof frame. They were mostly there to hold the panel in place while I glued the sunroof panel in place. Eventually I’m going to weld something in place to cover that hole. Right now I’m going to leave it glued. When I get the body sand blasted, I’ll make a new panel and weld it in. GRM just took a sheet of steel and riveted it to the roof. I’d like something a little cleaner than that if I can. I’m hoping to get some more time working on the car this afternoon. I know tomorrow I’ll have much of the afternoon to work on it. With two more days of work I should be able to get all of the sound deadening material out of the car. Since both passenger side floor panels are going to be replaced, that should not be too difficult. I’ll have photos up tonight or tomorrow. Thanks for reading. Pete

There are tons of good resources for the 16v head swap. It isn't necessarily an easy thing to do, but if you've got some wrenching skills and don't mind doing some fuel map tuning, you'll do just fine. I've contemplated doing the swap, but haven't had time or resources to put to it. Pete

That couldn't be further from the truth. A G60 motor that is running properly gets good torque down low and holds it through the power band. The last dyno run that I did with mine had it hitting full torque around 2100 and then the plot was almost perfectly straight across to 5500 where it starts to fall off. The G-lader supercharger gives awesome torque numbers down low, but the 8v head loses efficiency above 5500 rpm. Torque and hp start to drop off about there. My G60 has quite a few mods done to it. My last dyno tuning session had the motor running 179hp and 190lb/ft. It is still running rich too. I need to dial out the fuel pressure some to improve that. There's another 5 or 6hp in there. With head work, it could do even better. I'm going to finish the body work on it and sell it this summer. I need room and cash for the 2002. Unfortunately it suffers from the same problem that my 2002 has. The owner has been way overworked. I haven't had time to touch either car for the last two months. Pete

As the starter of this thread, I definitely don't consider it a jacking. You'll have to work harder than that to piss me off. Pete

I haven't found any on the web. Sorry.

I didn’t see a thread about this yet, so I guess I’ll post it up. If I’m repeating something someone already posted, sorry for the duplicate. I was very interested to see the article in the January 2007 issue of Classic Motorsports about BMW building a “new” 2002. In order to show their continued support for older models, BMW took a new chassis that they found in England and built it up with all new parts from the Mobile Tradition catalogue. The build took place in a glassed in shop at BMW HQ. The end result was a brand new 1973 BMW 2002 Tii. 91% of the parts came straight from the Mobile Tradition catalogue. The author of the article took the car for a test drive. It had about 1500 miles on it when he took it out. He loved it and lamented that BMW hasn’t brought it back. Pete

You just run bolt through the motor stand to the one motor mounting location? Thanks for the idea. I'll be doingthis myself in a month or so. That would definitely make things a lot easier to work with. Pete

I'm flying into Frankfurt and heading to Waldorf. I'm not going to be working stupid long days. I'll barely get time to eat, much less relax or do any touristing. I'll try and pad a trip with a few days of R&R some time soon. I'll be back at least 5 or 6 times this year. Pete

Unfortunately I haven't had any time to work on the 2002 at all. I'm just starting a new job and that is monopolizing a lot of my time. I'm going to Germany 2 weeks per month and that is definitely cutting into my work time. The good news is that I got a starter in the mail. (Thanks Greg!) I think the major exterior rust problems are contained for the moment. I'm hoping to pull the gas tank this week to empty it out. I may get the starter installed and fresh gas in the tank by Saturday afternoon. I may be hopping a flight to Germany Saturday night. My bank account is one of the big limiting factors at this point. I've got zero $$$ to invest at this point. I still have a lot of zero dollar work to do on the car. Thanks for the post. I'll catch up with you soon. Pete

Eastwood has the Clarke 130 for $440 and the Clarke 180 for $600. I was considering the Hobart. I've heard nothing but good things about it. Pete

Awesome work. keep it up!

We need to match your car with mine. Yours is good everywhere mine is bad. Mine is bad everywhere yours is good. Between the 2 of us we've got an AWESOME 2002. Keep up the good work. Pete

Thanks! Awesome info. Exactly what I needed. Pete

Thanks. I'll definitely ask when I get money and time to really work on this thing. I've got about 10 days of vacation that I'm taking starting in about 2 hours. I'm 98.7% cash free, so I'm doing the $0 work on the car while I can. I know I'm going to need a windshield wiper motor. I saw that BMW Classics has a rebuilt one on e-bay for a pretty reasonable price. I think I've got a line on a starter. That should hopefully come through in the next week or two. When it comes to really tearing it down and working on the shell, I may see if any locals want to get their hands dirty with my car. I enjoy doing stuff myself, but there's a lot of 2002-specific knowledge that I just don't have. That level of tear-down won't happen until things start to warm up a little in the spring. Thanks! pete

I know ahead of time that this is a silly question. I'm one of those that Mr. Garrison referrs to as a stupid person. When you say "new clean shell" what are you talking about? You're not talking new as in brand new, but new as in a decent shell that has no rust and has been stripped and primed and repaired when needed? I'm guessing that would also include nothing like doors, hood, nose, trunk, etc. For $3000, I'd be tempted by something in really good shape. As it is, I'll probably be piecing things together and learning my way around the fab process the hard way. Sorry for my ingorance. Thanks for the answer. Pete

Mine is 1/2 dismantled and sitting in the carport. It should be out and about by summer if the Bimmer gods smile upon my humble project. Good to see people posting up. Pete

Thanks for the post Velocewest. Your sentiments are shared by many on this board. We're not in uncharted waters here. Unfortunately making posts like this just feeds the problem. Until people start having respect for themselves and each other, not much is going to change. The good news is that once you learn your way around here, it is pretty easy to just skip over the threads and posts that are not worth reading. The Mods and admins have tried to solve the issues, but short of banning people or cleaning posts/threads out, I don't know that they'll have much luck. I respect their decision to let things go and hopefully resolve themselves. Moderating at the level where you're policing posts is time consuming and it does change the character of a message board. There's a lot of good on this board. I have been completely impressed with the way that people have reached out to help in so many ways with my project. That is exactly what I've tried to foster with other clubs and on-line communities. As I settle in and get more work done on my project, hopefully I'll be able to give back to the community in the way it has helped me out. I'm looking forward to that day. Thanks for stopping by. Don't give up on this board. There are some amazing project blogs out there and some extremely helpful and talented people posting here. Many, many thanks to those who have made the 02FAQ that way. Pete

I don't know where to draw the line with stuff like this. I know the copywrite stuff from a photographic point of view because I've had to chase down a few people who were using my copywrited photographs for profit without crediting or paying me. Most copywrites on printed materials are for 50 years in the US, if I'm not mistaken. Updating and re-printing can extend that. I honestly don't know if that goes for automotive manuals or parts there of. If someone created their own wiring diagram rather than scanning it, that would be their intellectual property. The two would look a lot alike because they're a diagram of the same thing in probably the same style. Does that make sense? With all of this, I'm not saying something is right or wrong. I don't know what the copywrite issues are with the 2002 manual and wiring diagram. I'm just saying that you might want to just think about this and maybe do some research. Good luck. Pete

Be careful. If this is copywrited material that you're distributing, then it might not be the wisest thing to put it out on a thread like this. Not making any judgements or anything. Just want to let you know that it might be wise to be careful. Pete

Cool. You save 8 pounds here, 8 pounds there and before you know it your car is a little lighter. Sounds like a great choice. When I've got the motor out and I'm overhauling it, I'll drop one in before I put the motor back in. Thanks for the info. Pete

What is the difference?

Thanks guys! I appreciate that. I've located a used starter that will work well for me. Once this one is out though, I am going to go through the rebuild process so that I can have a spare. Thanks for the info. Pete