Andrewp

On 4/9/2023 at 10:52 PM, joebarthlow said:

@Andrewp where are you located? I'm interested in your current seats if you replace them

San Francisco Bay Area

22 hours ago, Conserv said:

The photos of the seats in the BAT listing are neither extensive nor detailed.

 

But my gut reaction is that the rear seat remains original. The vinyl used from March 1966 until very late in 1971 had flat-bottomed “valleys” to the heat-seamed pleats, with a single row of molded-plastic faux “stitching” in each valley. The first photo below shows typical early-style molded vinyl.

 

The front seats appear to have the late-style molded vinyl, employed from late 1971 through August 1973. The second photo below shows typical late-style molded vinyl. But the front seats also appear to have tubular-style headrests and 10 mm. headrest supports, which would date them to before late January 1973. Check the diameter of the headrest supports to confirm or deny. In very late January 1973, the headrest supports increased in diameter to 12 mm. and the headrests became “eared”.

 

The frames of these late 1971 through January 1973 seats are essentially identical to the frames used from mid-1969 through late 1971, except for a single feature: black-painted recliners replaced chromed recliners during the 1972 model year on U.S.-spec cars (but probably during the 1971 model year on Euro-spec cars). U.S.-spec tii’s used chrome recliners until the end of the 1972 model year.

 

You will, however, find it will nigh impossible to source molded vinyl as used up until late 1971 (again, first photo below). Finding good used early-style molded vinyl — that remains pliable — while theoretically possible, may require great patience.

 

I’ve restored both 1972 and 1976 front seats with used period molded vinyl (third and fourth photos below, respectively). Finding still-pliable late-style and square-taillight vinyl took years and lots of fruitless purchases. I don’t know if I could have succeeded if I were looking for the early-style vinyl! And making new covers, re-using period vinyl, is strictly custom and expensive. The makers of high-quality ready-made seat covers, e.g., GAHH and World Upholstery, utilize molded vinyls much closer to the late-style vinyl (again, second photo below).

 

Coming up with a set of chrome-plated recliners, the other item marking your seats as “later than 1971”, will be much easier than solving the early-style vinyl issue!

 

So give some thought about how accurate you’d like your restoration to be: early-style molded vinyl can be a real challenge!

 

If you wanted a more 1971 appearance than you have today, without going crazy, a set of chrome recliners and GAHH seat covers (and gummihaar seat pads) would probably fool 97% of the car’s viewers!

 

Regards,

 

Steve

 

Great reply, thanks. A lot of good information. I'll probably opt for "fool 97% of the viewers" choice.  

2 hours ago, dlhoovler said:

Why do you say you don't have original seats? Those look correct for a late '71, though I don't recall exactly when the changeover from chrome to black textured hinges occurred.

I bought this car on BaT.

The seller stated he replaced the seats. There was quite the discussion on the hinges  as well.

1971 BMW 2002

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On 4/7/2023 at 11:00 AM, esty said:

i have a few set of OE seats, if you don't find what you want send me a picture of the seat you want and i'll see if i have them

I sent you an email, not sure if it went through or not.

Thanks for the responses. The current seats are not original.  Here's a pic of the existing seats. 

I'm looking to replace my existing front seats with the right style for my 1971 2002. Any recommendations ?

I did some searching and couldn't find any thread specific to buying the entire complete seat ready to bolt in.

Thanks

Andy

On 4/2/2020 at 10:51 AM, calicolorado said:

I installed birthday present to myself-a Momo Prototipo! The turbo wheel I have will get a refresh and I will begin my search for the correct horn button and hub shroud. Also installed a 5mm phenolic carb spacer, something I should have done a long time ago. Now it fires right up like it did with the original Solex. Lastly...affixed the paint code decal which has been sitting in my cabinet for ten years(!). I haven't driven her for a good while (8-9 mos maybe) due to work travel, soccer coaching and the carb issue, so getting back on the road at this strange time felt great, especially with the empty roads!

Love the color!

5 hours ago, radiocure said:

Really need to pause comments at the end of the auction, talk about lame ?

I agree, if you're not bidding within the last two minutes, no comments. The buyer of this car has bought 5 cars this year on BaT and has only three comments so I guess he agrees. ? 

Thanks guys for the info.

I would like to replace my tail light lenses on my 1971 2002. The current lenses on my car have a red center for the turn lens.

What I have found online all have amber center lenses. This is not a concours car by any means but since I want to replace them thought I might as well get the correct ones.

Any help would be appreciated.

Thanks

3 minutes ago, Clevis Woodruff said:

If you do need to drive into Los Angeles, you can take the Angeles Forest and Angeles Crest highways with LOTS of twisties, rather than continuing south on the 14 to the 5. Unless you get trapped behind a slowpoke, the time to downtown LA is about the same taking the mountain roads. Might even be faster because the 5 south through Burbank is usually hosed up. 
 

Welcome to California, and let me know if you want to go fly fishing in the Eastern Sierra when you get settled in!

Want to sound local when you get there? Make sure you put "the" before each highway name as above. If you head to NorCal you can just leave it off. Quirky California thing. ?

I've driven through it a few times. In the spring it actually can look pretty nice but...

It can snow in the winter, can have crazy high winds and be super hot in the summer. It's the high desert any weather is possible. 

Don't know about the people but I would suggest more investigation before committing.

Went for nice drive, stopped at Calero for quick pic.

1 hour ago, s99 said:

 

Lake Berryessa in Napa County !

Been there many times but not with a 2002. That looks fun and the lake level is way up!

On 12/24/2019 at 7:13 PM, s99 said:

Early morning mountain drive. Lots of fog and lots of fun! Slippery road though...

 

What lake is that?

4 hours ago, D Seattle said:

Mmmm.... the bidding closed.  Not the same as it being bought.   I hope I am wrong, but any bets on whether it is funded and actually closed?  Of course, looks like a $5,000 penalty if not so likely its a done deal. 

It says sold at the end of the auction. If it didn't meet reserve it would read "reserve not met"

All BaT sales are completed outside of BaT directly between buyer and seller. BaT deducts their commision immediately regardless of whether the two parties complete the sale or not. 

Replaced a grungy fuel filter

On 3/13/2011 at 8:30 PM, bracohen said:

Sorry, my internet communication skills are seriously lacking because I don't know what all the doo hicky's are called. I am learning though, slowly. Now this thread may die and maybe someone like me will read it one day and gather a grain of knowledge.

You were right back in 2011. I just was looking at my carb yesterday wondering what that other accelerator pump spot was for.

I visited the USS Midway in San Diego Harbor yesterday. If you have the chance it's a must see thing to do. I met and talked to many Veteran / Docents who were on board. The most special moment was meeting Jack down in the engine room who very humbly told us he was at Normandy on D-Day. He will be turning 95 this month. It was an absolute honor to meet him, very emotional and a special moment for all of us.

Great pics!

While I had it up in the air took the wheels off to clean them and the wheel covers. I kind of like the "steely" look. 

Finished installing my IE stainless exhaust. Used a bracket on a bracket to hold the down pipe. It looks stupid as hell but it works for now until I fab something better. I need to watch those speed bumps...

2 hours ago, majdomo said:

Many auctions require a deposit after you win. My guess is they grab the deposit and you never hear from them again.  

Just reported it to eBay as a possible fraud. It’s a nice car though, great color!

 

Edit - they took it down.

 

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Thanks for reporting it.

It looks like someone has put the car I bought off of BaT a while back on eBay. The problem is I'm not selling the car. They used some of the same pictures and descriptions from the BaT auction.

https://www.ebay.com/itm/1971-BMW-2002/143412462953?hash=item21640c8569%3Ag%3A6DcAAOSwd1tdpkI9&LH_ItemCondition=4

*Edit* The ad has been taken down. Thanks to Majdomo for reporting it to eBay.

Scam alert!! 

This is the same car I bought on BaT and I'm not selling it.

They even used some of the same pictures and descriptions.