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Hey everyone, I came very close to buying this car and driving it back to Atlanta but bowed out due to the seller not being completely clear/honest about the amount of rust it has. That being said, I still think it's a great deal so I figured I'd post it here because I know someone will bite. No relation to the seller. His listing on Facebook: https://www.facebook.com/marketplace/item/475624773265656/ His description: "I have for sale a 1969 BMW 2002, all original car from california. no rust at all. 4 speed manual. Runs and drives great just don't use it enough. feel free to message me $8,500 car is located in hudson new hampshire" Other things of note he told me: VIN 1663246 Full documentation from the first owner No compression numbers Odometer non-functional Rust at pedal box is just surface and can't be poked through with a screw driver I passed because he initially was saying no rust, but clearly there's some present underneath the windshield and at the pedal box. No telling where else the seller is avoiding showing. Anyways, photos and a video of it running are below. I've added the car to the registry, for the record. video-1563889307.mp4
Hi! I’ve had this car for several weeks now, but I didn’t want to post until I had all the paperwork sorted out. That’s done now so here it goes. Yes, I bought that 69 Granada from New Hampshire that some of you may have seen pop up in the Classifieds back in July. Same car that someone in MA was trying to flip for about 13k but couldn’t, and ended up selling to NH where they also tried to flip it for around 11k but couldn’t either because of the shitty interior and, more importantly, lack of a title. I took a chance on the car as it appeared to have spent most of its life in California (confirmed now after going through all the history in receipts that it seems to have been a one-owner car until about 2014 or 2015, when it changed hands and was eventually sold to the East Coast), and appeared to be pretty complete and fairly unmolested for its age. I made a couple of trips to my local DMV before even making an offer, just to understand the chances of being able (or not) to get a title in my name. It was also helpful for negotiating the price. I gathered the necessary documentation and was able to register the car and go through with the title application. I will say that, for a car bought sight unseen, I didn’t get any surprises. I received about 80 photos before making an offer, so I had a pretty good sense of what I was getting. When I finally got the car delivered, I just felt sorry for it. No surprises, like I said (althought some things looked worse than on the photos), but I was struck by how little TLC it had received in the last few years. I had dug deep on the internet to find photos of the car about 5 years ago and it just looked run down compared to that. Like it fell in the hands of people who just didn’t care. Last owner only had it for a literal couple of months. Car was dirty, interior was a mess; it was running strong but using all sorts of wrong parts and fluids. Electrical was a mess with nothing on the dashboard working. Just a lot of neglect. I left the car at my buddy’s shop where it was completely gone through. We tackled motor and interior first as they both needed some serious love. All fluids were drained, all electrical connections replaced, motor mounts replaced, etc. etc. Then also fixed electrical in the process. Now speedo, wipers, emergency flashers and radio all work (none worked when I got the car). After getting it, I realized the car had the wrong (later model) front seats. Rookie mistake; I had seen the seats in photos and didn't realize they were from a later model. Thanks to this site I was able to find a pair of earlier seats in original black upholstery (yes, technically not correct since this is a very early 69, built in Sept. 68, so it should have no headrests, but definitely a thousand times closer and better than what it had before); threw in a new carpet kit and boy now it’s a different car inside. My buddy also fixed the center console and added a more appropriate-looking radio with Bluetooth. We also replaced the American turn signal lenses with the flat Euro lenses that I believe would be correct for this model year. The car is nowhere near perfect. There is some rust to be addressed, and it will be down the road (mainly what's visible in the ad photos; the rest is pretty solid). But I wanted to get it to a point where I could drive it, enjoy it, get to know it (I’m not new to classic cars but definitely new to 2002s) and then later on send it in for additional repairs. I've only driven it a couple of times so far because it hasn't stopped raining in Miami, but I'm glad of how things turned out and I certainly love the way it drives. I had little faith in this car in the beginning, but I saw potential and, with a lot of help from my friend, we have tried to bring that out. QUESTION FOR THE EXPERTS: One thing I'm curious about is the fact that the speedo is in km/h. I have different versions on this: Some people say this might be a Canadian model; the Craigslist ad said it was a 'euro spec;' BMW tells me this was delivered to Hoffman Motors in New York City (like I believe all US models were at that time, port of entry). Can someone chime in on this? I wonder if it's the original speedo? Could it be the original speedo if this was indeed a US model car? I appreciate the feedback. If you've read this far, thank you! Here are photos of the car as it sits today. If you want some before photos check out the ad hyperlinked a few paragraphs above.
Edit (10/3/17): This car will NOT be parted =) Edit (9/27/17): I've been looking at the photos of the car for two days and this thought has creeped into my head that maybe, just maybe I can get it started and running and driveable as a "beater" until I can get the other car to the Bay Area this winter and asess them together. I'll be inspecting and possibly attempting to start it Sunday if everything seems to check out. I do have one question: will a set of 14x7 et25 wheels fit the car temporarily? I have a set of 14" Hartge wheels that are supposedly 2002/320i specific, but haven't been able to verify it, my husband was running them on his e30 for a while. Any input would be appreciated =) ----- So I'll be headed down from SF to Santa Clara this coming weekend to pick up that red 2000 that's been posted on-and-off on Craigslist for years, finally struck a deal with the seller. Unfortunately I have no space to keep it, and while the original goal was to get it cheap and use it as a donor car for my other NK, I feel torn on destroying it for personal gain. I do need a lot from it, including all the doors and the 2-liter engine, it also appears to be (from my inspection 6 months ago) a fixable car. Currently, my plan is to get it to my driveway in San Francisco and part it out. I may arrange a "disassemble-fest" with anyone willing to show up paying a small flat donation in exchange for as many parts as you can remove and take home -- if you're interested in participating, please let me know. The "donation" would be no more than $100 and help recoup some of my cost on the car and hopefully cover the cost to dispose of the shell (and maybe pay for some pizza and beers for the afternoon). Major parts available that I don't need (off the top of my head) include: - Hood - Trunklid - Bumpers - Fenders - (most) Belt Trim - Glass - Fuel Filler Lid - Gas Tank - Brightwork - Center Grille All that said, IF the car shows to be in much better condition than my other NK once I get it here and can inspect it thoroughly, I may opt to part the other and restore this one...I do have good reasons not to do that (the other is an earlier model and I have contact with the owner who imported it), but practicality may dictate which direction I go and I'll update here accordingly. If anyone feels I should part neither and wants to yell at me and dissuade me, feel free to do that as well, I do feel kind of bad parting a 50-year-old car =(