Indeed. Heck, you can hardly even get a solid 912 project car for less than mid teens now. Sometimes I regret selling my 993, and then other times I remember how often things like, "Will driving my car 300 miles affect the value?" come up. Shooting the breeze with those guys is more like having a conference with a bunch of investors. I always loved talking to the R Gruppe guys though, cool bunch who use their cars, and probably part of my motivation to get out of the later model stuff (although, horribly timed).