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Love the pic of the fraus lovingly caressing a freshly painted 02. What's the car in front though?

Fairly certain the car in front is a BMW E3 - probably early 2500 or 2800...

Love the Alpina pic btw!! And who gives a flying F*** about academic-copyright-talk anyway - lets talk 02!! :-D

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With BMW-Regards,
Anders.

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Your impression is very simplistic. The subject is very complicated. Non commercial appropriation can affect value too. If the pic is seen everywhere, then no one may want to pay the holder for the use of it. There are exceptions for parodies and educational purposes too.

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True art is free.

Tell that to Picasso and every body shop who works on 02's. Tell it to BMW! Tell it to everyone who is claims their car is a work of art and is advertising it in the classifieds!

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Great picture!!

Basically, the original photographer owned the copyright unless he was clearly compensated by Alpina (money, parts, etc) for the photo. Then the ownership was transferred to the entity that compensated him.

If Alpina gave a copy of the photo to someone, that is merely a gift, and the copyright does not transfer unless it is spelled out in some sort of agreement. It would be reasonable for him to post a copy on his personal website or wherever. If it was to promote his business, not reasonable. If they were to request he remove it, legally, he would be required to do so. He also would not be able to sell copies, posters, etc. without written permission.

If Ireland copied the picture from his website or photo album without anybody's written permission, it would be awkward for them to post it on their website because it could be construed that they are using it to promote their business. If someone at Ireland copied it for their personal use, that would be acceptable.

Posting such items on a forum or mailing list allows the usage on the forum/list, but not anywhere else especially for the purpose of earning income.

Basically, if it can be construed that someone is using the images, story, etc to promote/enhance their business, website, etc. that they in some way earn income or use as a reference to earn income, then they need to have written permission stating the terms of usage allowed, otherwise the copyright still belongs to the photographer/writer UNLESS they have clearly and knowingly compensated the writer/photographer for the ownership. If there was no clear compensation, and if the "artist" requests that it be removed, the site owner can be held liable for removal.

Make sense?

vince

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Basically, the original photographer owned the copyright unless he was clearly compensated by Alpina (money, parts, etc) for the photo. Then the ownership was transferred to the entity that compensated him.

If Alpina gave a copy of the photo to someone, that is merely a gift, and the copyright does not transfer unless it is spelled out in some sort of agreement.

If Ireland copied the picture without anybody's written permission, it would be awkward for them to post it on their website because it could be construed that they are using it to promote their business.

Posting such items on a forum or mailing list allows the usage on the forum/list, but not anywhere else especially for the purpose of earning income. vince

Mel N. would no doubt agree with you. It is also possible that someone other than Alpina could have paid for the photographer's picture and that entity would retain the rights, whatever they might be. If someone were to use the image in a quasi-commercial context they do so at their own peril and subject to the prosecutorial whim of the holder.

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