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Not 02 related, but a cool barn find!


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Just wondering if some of you have vintage plane knowledge and would know what this is worth+ what to offer.

Kinda a barn find, It hasn't moved in a long time, motor and wings are off, but everything is supposedly there.

Motor is a Jabobs r 755-b7 275hp radial engine

Here's a couple pictures that resemble it the most.

I'd like to put it back together.

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I would start with $100,000 and be prepared to spend twice that. Vintage airplanes are incrdibly expensive to restore. Remember all work including motor have to be done by licensed shops and individuals. I would bet there are fewer than ten motor shops in the country that would rebuild a radial. Depending on condition$10k would be a start.....This all is based on you flying it.....Remember it was taken apart for a reason.. If your not scared off try and make sure and get paperwork. Airworthiness Certificate and the planes maintenance records.....Try EAA's website or call them they are a great resource. Experimental Aircraft Association.... Look at Burt Rutans website for a modern composit air craft you can build in your garage.....

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Wow, wasn't thinking those figures.

I'll have to take a closer look exact model, damage, papers, and see what's their starting price.

I knew the old man that use to own it long ago, he died, and now his daughter has it, but doesn't really care about it, It's in a barn in pieces.

If i could get my hands on it, i'd slowly put it back together and fly it some day.

Thanks richard

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I believe that is a PT-17 primary trainer (commonly known as a Stearman. It should have a 240 horsepower Lycoming 9 cylinder radial 450 cubic inch engine. Some were refitted with 220 hp Continental Radials that were taken from WWII tanks and refitted to be airworthy. It should have aileron controls only on the lower wings. I worked on a number of them back when I worked for a crop-dusting company in the '60s.

e-mail me if you have any questions

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I work at an aircraft museum, and we just finished a PT-17. If you have any questions, I can find an answer.

There were quite a few of these built, and many of them survive, so there are alot of guys out there that know them like we know 02's.

Jordan

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If your really serious and depending on where you live. Check into getting an A and P license.Would probably take half the resto price off....Check Trade a plane for prices and parts. If your a young man or woman I would go for it in a second.... It would be a hell of a project but thats what dreams are about.....

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I've been one response too late from buying a couple of abandoned RV-8 projects, and could easily see an airplane in my garage (or at least parts of one).

I have my most of my metalworking tools and plan to "go-there" when I can.

Understand that Harv has an inside perspective (as do I), but do know that you'll be jumping in with both feet. There is no half-way.

A Stearman is no joke. It's not like Boeing still supports the bird and parts are available on shelves somewhere ready to be shipped. I don't know that it's that poorly supported, but its not as if the aircraft is currently being built in kit form. I just looked at some for sale that list restore times at and above 7000 man hours.

Some folks might believe that a better investment is a warbird, and not a trainer-- but then the capitol required multiplies.

If you want to learn to fly, build an airplane, restore an airplane-- far be it from me to tell you that what you intend to do is crazy or unreasonable, but you should start somewhere simple and move to the complex.

If you're not currently licensed, start taking lessons-- work towards a Private pilot's license, or even towards Light Sport Pilot's license before you start thinking of restoring an airplane.

While I'm not totally sure, I do think that Boeing Strearman when rebuilt can be categorized as Experimental aircraft (homebuilt). Additionally, (if memory serves correctly) if you complete the aircraft, the FAA will issue YOU (the builder) a repairman's certificate. From this point on, you do not need an Airframe and Powerplant Mechanic's license to work on the airplane. If you completely restore a Stearman, no matter if you do it yourself or if you have 100 of your closest friends help you do it-- I'd be willing to say that you've got more experience with actual airplanes than many A&P applicants.

"experimental" aircraft do not require certified parts or avionics-- which too brings the costs down a bit when compared to certificated aircraft. This doesn't necessarily change the quality of a component or components, the manufacturer just doesn't need to jump through all of the same hoops of fire in order to begin selling goods. It's a wacky deal really.

Just my two cents.

Make it different... or just do it differently

Bill in Petaluma, CA

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1970 2002 RIP -- crashed then quartered

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I don't know how they do it up there, I'm speaking from a "yank" perspective.

Do some homework before you leap.

Cheers!

Make it different... or just do it differently

Bill in Petaluma, CA

1969 1600 supercharged m20 in progress

1970 2002 RIP -- crashed then quartered

1971 2002 M20/02 RIP -- nothing but pieces now

1972 2002 gone, but not missed POS

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I believe the work still has to be done to pretty rigid standards and has to be signed off by an AI...The a and p license would be a good start....I you check trade a plane the plane your describing in flying condition is going for $150K up over $200K....Good example: You can buy a very well restored 2002 for less than it will cost you unless you do all the work. Also check with EAA. They have access to a database and may be able to tell you more...

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