original 2002tii alloy rims?

[maikelm11]

Hi

Are these original 2002tii alloy rims?

What are they worth?

Thanks,

Maikel

[satsuma]

I believe they are original factory option wheels, don't know if they were solely available for tii's, probably not?

Here in the UK you might pay $400-$600 for a tidy set of 5.

Ben

[Mike Self]

logo cast into 'em, they're factory roundie alloys, introduced sometime around 1971, when the first tii's came out. FPS also made the same wheel as an aftermarket product in a 5.5jx13 size (have only seen one set of them).

They are available new from MT for something around $200 each...so price accordingly.

mike

[John_in_VA]

They are worth what someone will pay, depending on condition and desire.

Mobile Tradition is offering these wheels new, for $233.82 each (at Maximillian Importing Company).

[02fanatic]

Hi

Are these original 2002tii alloy rims?

What are they worth?

Thanks,

Maikel

Before the repro rims (currently available-see above) these wheels were very pricey! Still are in my opinion, and worth it "if they are original" It's easy to tell the repro wheels as the "FPS" stamp is on the front of the wheel rim (I don't care for this personally). For originality, I'd go with the "real thing"! :-)

Be warned however, that the original alloy in these wheels was known to be rather "soft", so damage came easily, including the center hub opening being "out of round" if the wheel was not torqued on properly and rotated loose at all.

Back years ago I put about $2,000 into a set of 5 of these babies having them professionally refinished...probably better than stock ever was, but gorgeous nonetheless.

The repro wheels have definitely lowered the value of the original wheels though, so you can use that to your advantage if you go for an old set. It can cost an arm & leg bringing an old set up to show quality however, so maybe consider the new ones instead?...it's your call.

BTW, originally (and officially) these wheels are called "Early Factory Alloys", and they "were not" only offered on tii's...but all '02's '71 to '73 range. It is not correct to call them tii alloys, although more than likely they were options on tii's more so than non-tii's.

Good Luck,

John

[dirk2602]

I believe that the BMW logo on the originals is on the inside of the rim. I have seen repros with the BMW logo but it was on the outside. My guess is that with the originals being some 35 years old, you won't find them in perfect condition and to make them look nice, you'll end up spending at least $200-$250 per rim (wheelcollision.com), assuming that they're straight . But for the purists among us, that might be something they're willing to pay. Or drive them "as-is".

Max sells new ones for $235, add the caps, the nuts and shipping and you're looking at $1450 - $1500 for a set of 4. I bought mine from another vendor, before Max had his nice website up and running, and paid more.

I am sure Maikel that they sell the repros in Germany or Belgium as well. It is my understanding that that's where they're coming from.

[02fanatic]

Hey Dirk:

Where do you drive down there? I'm from Sarasota, and I can remember only one road with a "slight bend" in it! Everything is dead straight and "flat as a pancake" down there! It must be rough on an '02er who wants a spirited drive! :-) But, you laugh at us in January, I know! :-)

[c.d.iesel]

[MikeD]

John....you said that these were available up to '73. I bought my 74 Tii new and they came on the car. I always thought that they were available till '74. I am now wondering if the dealer put them on the car from a '73 and failed to mentioned it... not that it matters now

[02fanatic]

John....you said that these were available up to '73. I bought my 74 Tii new and they came on the car. I always thought that they were available till '74. I am now wondering if the dealer put them on the car from a '73 and failed to mentioned it... not that it matters now

Yes, '71 "through" '73 for "Early Factory Alloys"......I suppose since they were "an option" the dealer could have installed them on the '74...but as I understand the history of the optional alloy wheels, the "Late Factory Alloys" (see C.D.'s sketches above) started as an option in '74.

[dirk2602]

Hey Dirk:

Where do you drive down there? I'm from Sarasota, and I can remember only one road with a "slight bend" in it!

Somtimes I go to Sarasota and drive 50 times around St Amrands Circle

[02Les]

BTW, originally (and officially) these wheels are called "Early Factory Alloys", and they "were not" only offered on tii's...but all '02's '71 to '73 range. It is not correct to call them tii alloys, although more than likely they were options on tii's more so than non-tii's.

Good Luck,

John

Quite right John.

As a Touring Owner, I think of them as Touring alloys though. They were part of the "Sport Package" offered for the Touring and feature in the Touring Sales Brochure from early (Apr?) '71.

[osbourne]

Not "Tii alloys". They were an option on any 02 in '72......other years, too, but I don't know for sure when they were first available and when they became NLA.

They seem to be pretty rare (at least in the eastern US). In fact, I don't recall ever seeing them on any 02s "back in the day" except for my 2002A, and my long dead & gone 2002Tii (both 72s).

Just curious: are the center caps still available anywhere? Unless they are well protected, the electrolytic action between the steel of the caps and the aluminum of the wheel will have they frozen solidly into place. When it's time to replace/remove a tire, they tend to get destroyed.....don't ask me how I know this Fortunately, when I first learned this lesson, new ones were still available from the dealer, so mine are still in great shape.

[BillWilliams]

Sold out of them in two days.

I checked and we can get a few of them again now.

You can buy them on line now.

http://www.bmwmobiletradition-online.com/bmw/showparts.do?model=2583&mospid=47141&btnr=36_0363&hg=36&fg=15

order 4 or 5 if you want one for a spare.

Anti seize between the rim and the hubcaps help

[02fanatic]

Hey Dirk:

Where do you drive down there? I'm from Sarasota, and I can remember only one road with a "slight bend" in it!

Somtimes I go to Sarasota and drive 50 times around St Amrands Circle

St Armands Circle doesn't count! :-) There used to be an outstanding Spanish Restaurant on St. Armands Circle - and it had absolutely "the best" black bean soup anywhere! Nothing like an evening drive along one of the keys in the summer (Longboat, Siesta, etc.). I miss it sometimes!