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[BarrettN]

Some early Alpina options for struts and brakes:

 

[2002iii]

9 minutes ago, BarrettN said:

Some early Alpina options for struts and brakes:

 

Isn't that just a factory turbo strut and brakes?

[BarrettN]

That strut is circa 67, so maybe it eventually was used for the turbo, but it predates it by quite a bit. 

[Flunder]

Hi @2002iii

 

Completely different actually as compared to turbo parts.

 

This is the earliest ad that I have seen for this kit. Thank you @BarrettN.

 

That is a very early 1600-2 - note the forward location of the swan neck mirror.

 

The Alpina brake kit is comprised of their unique hub and special Alpina rotors which are of different dimensions unique to this Alpina kit. They do not interchange with the turbo parts.

 

The standard [correction: NOT larger] diameter struts were built to incorporate negative camber thus eliminating the need for negative camber plates.

 

The optional ATE caliper shown on the viewers right has a one piece forged aluminum design, and was never a BMW part.

 

But @uai would know better than me the specifics of the components shown on this early Alpina 1600-2 brake kit advert.

Edited October 12 by Flunder

[Son of Marty]

The kit shown above was made with I assume Koni shocks before they went to the Bilsteins the diameter of the shock rod is a dead give away, Not that there's anything wrong about that just say'n.

[Flunder]

You’re right. Thanks for pointing that out.

 

Edited October 6 by Flunder

[uai]

1 hour ago, 2002iii said:

Isn't that just a factory turbo strut and brakes?

No it's either Porsche 911s or NK calipers with spacer
And it's not yet the bilstein USD - rather a boge Alpina Strut

Edited October 6 by uai

[BarrettN]

Love that it still has the same Dymo label in place:

 

[Flunder]

Yes, pretty extraordinary that it’s still on the strut tube.

 

And it still provides positive visual identification, presumably its original purpose, 57 years later,

 

V special to see this. I have never seen one before on a car.

 

 

Edited October 6 by Flunder

[mccusername]

This is an Alpina price list in German. I have it noted as being from 1967, though it doesn't say that anywhere on the document. It shows several Koni strut/shock options though Uli is right that there were Boge negative camber struts early on.

[mccusername]

Does anyone have this '67 Alpina advertisement in a high-res scan? Shows parts for a 1600-2.

[JohnP_02]

On 10/6/2024 at 5:11 PM, mccusername said:

This is an Alpina price list in German. I have it noted as being from 1967, though it doesn't say that anywhere on the document. It shows several Koni strut/shock options though Uli is right that there were Boge negative camber struts early on.

I love this one for the list of the early Alpina steering wheels that were available. I used an online translation app, but there were a few typos in there that I had to have some help from native German speakers to translate. Its a little frustrating how vague the descriptions are sometimes. Fun stuff though 

Edited October 8 by JohnP_02

[JohnP_02]

Along with Powerslide, anyone remember the Swiss BMW tuner Eggenberger? I think they came along just after the 2002 years and maybe started with e21. I’ve been looking for one of these Momo horn buttons for awhile, but still haven’t seen one for sale. 
 

 

[Flunder]

…oh please, give us a brake…

 

The sporting potential of the new 1600-2 was significantly greater than what was on offer in the standard OEM model available in the showroom. And Alpina wasted no time in developing a comprehensive range of solutions to allow performance enthusiasts to realize on that potential.

As the Alpina strut and brake ad shows, a solution for  improved braking performance for the 1600-2 was  addressed early-on with kits that included ventilated rotors, and  bigger calipers with larger pads to increase swept area. Either cast widened NK calipers (something I just learned from @uai) with a spacer between halves, or a one piece forged aluminum caliper could be specified.

 

ATE (formerly known as Alfred Teves) manufactured both of these calipers. The later similarly widened Ti calipers in such Alpina vented brake kits replaced the NK part. All three shared the same 3 1/2 inch bolt spacing, which required a different strut than standard for the 1600-2.

 

The S and NK are for single circuit systems, like the standard 1600-2 caliper.

The exotic and very expensive ATE  one piece forged aluminum caliper stayed in the program long after the NK part was replaced by its cast iron Ti counterpart. 
 

 

Reduced unsprung weight, greater rigidity and readily available pad compounds for racing from Textar and others such as FERODO were the key features and benefits.

 

The basic design of the caliper was also used on the TYP 908 race car although for that application ATE  made the forgings in magnesium rather than aluminum.

 

In their aluminum version, the calipers achieved renown on the 1970-71 top of the line Porsche production car, the 911S and are today referred to as S calipers. They continued in use for the early 930 Turbo.

 

A modification developed for endurance racing during the era of the super light weight, eight cylinder 3 liter 908 were quick change pins to allow pad changes in the pits.

 

This beautifully restored original S caliper, as fitted by Alpina to one of its race cars shows the modified pins. Thanks to a prominent 02 enthusiast for the pics!

 

With Alpina vented rotors and scooped backing plates, these were the ultimate in Alpina 1600-2 braking.

 

 

A big thanks to @BarrettN for posting the early ad:

ALPINA-FAHRWERKS-TEILE

 

It would be interesting to know the date that the ad was first published.

 

Perhaps @uai or @66m10 could advise…

Edited October 12 by Flunder

[Flunder]

On 10/6/2024 at 5:13 PM, mccusername said:

Does anyone have this '67 Alpina advertisement in a high-res scan? Shows parts for a 1600-2.

Among all the early Alpina 1600-2 advertisements, this particular ad shown above as posted previously by @mcusername is pretty interesting.

It may be unique in two respects.

1. Cracker box is present.

2. Alpina girl is absent.

 

 

 

 

 

Edited October 12 by Flunder