gwb72tii Posted October 7, 2022 Share Posted October 7, 2022 So what is everyone using for an AFR meter? I'm not interested in modifying my exhaust system to accept an O2 sensor so I'm looking for a portable handheld meter. Innovate has one the LM-2, but it's also $300. https://www.amazon.com/Innovate-Motorsports-BASIC-Digital-Wideband/dp/B001S7W836 TIA Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
John76 Posted October 7, 2022 Share Posted October 7, 2022 How do you want to use it? I notice you can get the optional a tail pipe clamp to hold the Bosch sensor, but I would not recommend driving with it attached. Consider welding the mounting bung to the downpipe and remove the sensor and replace with a threaded plug when not in use. There are a few wireless Blue-Toothe sensors available if you don't want a gauge or hand-held meter. John 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
AustrianVespaGuy Posted October 7, 2022 Share Posted October 7, 2022 It doesn't matter much what controller you use, you still gotta get the sensor into the exhaust stream somehow. So you either A.) Weld a bung into the headers/downpipe somewhere and screw in the sensor there, or you B.) Stick it up in the tailpipe. A is generally preferable, as it both allows you to leave it installed while driving, and also puts the measurement (and accordingly also the feedback you receive) MUCH closer to the point of combustion. There's quite a bit of time-lag that occurs between the combustion event and the exit of the tailpipe, which makes tuning anything transient significantly trickier. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
tzei Posted October 7, 2022 Share Posted October 7, 2022 Also exhaust pipe volume will affect time lag. Weld a bung and call it a day. Oh and i use AEM meter/Bosch sensor. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
wheelieking Posted October 7, 2022 Share Posted October 7, 2022 I use the Innovate MTX-L gauge that comes with a Bosch sensor placed in a bung in the down pipe. I had an AEM for a while but either the gauge or more likely the sensor failed, and Innovate had a cool little data logger that I wanted to use. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Oldtimerfahrer Posted October 7, 2022 Share Posted October 7, 2022 The downpipe on an 02 costs (relatively) next to nothing, so welding the bung is really the best way to go. They usually come with a plug, so if you don't want to make a permanent installation you can cap it after you've done your tuning...just run wires temporarily. The clip in the exhaust is ok to tune idle gor emissions, not really for road testing. I have been adding the bung just in case on all my new downpipes prior to install... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Lorin Posted October 7, 2022 Share Posted October 7, 2022 You get a much better O2 reading with the sensor welded in the pipe, particularly at idle where there is some reversion near the exhaust tip. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
dirving Posted October 8, 2022 Share Posted October 8, 2022 I used the clamp on bung and did it in place. Works fine. Drill a hole. Four years now. Just get the angle right Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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