nv02 Posted September 18, 2022 Share Posted September 18, 2022 Haven't posted in a very long time, but I've had an incident worth posting a PSA about: the ignition switch located right behind the key tumbler failed quickly and with potentially disastrous results. I drove down for coffee in the morning and the car behaved oddly as I switched it off - the starter motor momentarily kicked in. When arriving back home, it did the same thing and also didn't want to turn the engine off until I jiggled the key. Thinking this was odd and would need to be looked into, but not taking it too seriously, my wife and I got out of the car. Luckily we needed to move some things over to the daily driver and were casually conversing when my wife side incredulously, "Fire!". There was a flame, like out of a lighter, coming out of the ignition right where the key goes in. I blew it out and disconnected the battery as quickly as I could. The smell was quite bad - anyone know what a RIFA capacitor smells like after exploding in an old power supply? I moved the panel underneath the steering wheel and found this. The whole switch assembly and wires were burnt and scorched. If my wife hadn't noticed the fire and we walked out of the garage, the whole car (and the garage and the daily drive) would have burned up. The hot wire from the battery isn't fused and will dump as much current as it can into that switch. Scary. I did have a NOS ignition switch assembly from decades ago when I thought it was going out (turned out to be bad engine grounding) so I swapped in the new switch and cleaned up the wires and connectors and insulation. An easy fix for an almost total loss. The moral of this story is if the ignition switch is acting funny, don't wait to swap it out. Something bad is about to happen. 1 4 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
2002iii Posted September 19, 2022 Share Posted September 19, 2022 Wow looks like you caught it just in time!!!! I had a similar situation happen on a car I was fixing for a friend. I had been having trouble with the ignition switch sticking but didn't think much of it, until I heard a snap and crackling like something sparking while turning the car on. When I turned the key to off sparks started coming out of the ignition switch followed by smoke. Luckily I haded installed a battery kill switch, so I was able to kill the power before a fire started. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
'76mintgrün'02 Posted September 19, 2022 Share Posted September 19, 2022 Scary stuff. Thanks for sharing. My cousin sent a video of a truck burning out on the street across from their house. Apparently, the fire started on its own and ate up the whole front end before the firemen put it out. I like stories that end with "so I grabbed a part out of my stash and fixed it." I also like your heat shrunk crimp fittings. I don't have a battery kill switch, but do keep a wrench handy. It's stuck to the fender with a little magnet. Tom 3 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mike Self Posted September 19, 2022 Share Posted September 19, 2022 23 minutes ago, '76mintgrün'02 said: I don't have a battery kill switch, but do keep a wrench handy. It's stuck to the fender with a little magnet. That is an excellent idea! How many of us still have their original ignition switch...and how many times has it been used over the car's life. It's one of the few places other than the battery and starter motor where there's a wire that's always live and unfused....I think I have a spare 13mm wrench somewhere....and a magnet! mike Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TobyB Posted September 19, 2022 Share Posted September 19, 2022 well, there are the headlights, too... t on the early cars Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
John76 Posted September 19, 2022 Share Posted September 19, 2022 21 hours ago, nv02 said: if the ignition switch is acting funny, don't wait to swap it out. Absolutely! When my original switch started acting funny @ 138k miles, I took it apart to see why the resistance was so high. Discovered the small spring that holds the detent ball had broken. I was lucky the loose parts didn't short-out and cause the horrific problem that you encountered. Did you find the same? Or was everything too melted? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
d.hitchcock Posted September 20, 2022 Share Posted September 20, 2022 Okey doke! My car has been exhibiting these symptoms. I've got the replacement part ready to install. That goes right to the top of the priority list now. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
John76 Posted September 20, 2022 Share Posted September 20, 2022 In the meantime, keep one of these within reach under your front seat. 3 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
nv02 Posted September 20, 2022 Author Share Posted September 20, 2022 I hope my experience saves someone else from the same fate. I do have a fire extinguisher in the car as well. The failed switch was a molten mess of plastic, but I may try and deconstruct it one day. Still, hard to believe this switch failed after only 50 years 😉 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dudeland Posted September 22, 2022 Share Posted September 22, 2022 On 9/20/2022 at 1:25 PM, John76 said: In the meantime, keep one of these within reach under your front seat. I have a halon my my left foot with a robust holder, and one on the rear passenger side footwell. Thankfully the halon is chrome, so it gives me 5-8 extra horsepower. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
John76 Posted September 22, 2022 Share Posted September 22, 2022 6 hours ago, Dudeland said: halon is chrome, so it gives me 5-8 extra horsepower. Very cool ... you have it plumbed into your nitrous oxide system? 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dudeland Posted September 24, 2022 Share Posted September 24, 2022 7 hours ago, John76 said: Very cool ... you have it plumbed into your nitrous oxide system? You bet. Here is the pic of it in action. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
John76 Posted September 24, 2022 Share Posted September 24, 2022 Wow! Halon wheels! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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