Game Changer for S-14 Swaps

[M3M3]

Hmmm... Taking $20k in equity out of the car....??

[Milo]

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Edited March 14, 2022 by Vladimir

[Tdh]

13 hours ago, M2M3 said:

Hmmm... Taking $20k in equity out of the car....??

Dammit @M2M3, put a fender blanket on that thing!   That paint’s too nice to screw up! 

[jgerock]

17 hours ago, M2M3 said:

Hmmm... Taking $20k in equity out of the car....??

Waiting for comments regarding this new picture…? (I’m talking about others).

[chargin]

23 hours ago, Tdh said:

 If BMW parts get too expensive, swap in a Honda F22!?

 

The Sacrilege, who would do such Evil?

but if they did they could buy 4 motors for the price of 1 -S14 and have a 6 speed attached 

 

 

23 hours ago, Autostrada said:

240/5 overdrive gearbox.

Great choice, I ran one for years 

 

On 9/19/2021 at 5:19 PM, Mark92131 said:

Apparently, S14 motors are headed in the same direction as the housing market.  Yes, it was a very nice, stock example and included a Getrag 265 transmission, but at this price it has me rethinking my strategy for the 1600 I'm building.

Possibly the best solution 15 years ago when S14's were reasonable, now e30 M3's are so expensive I wouldn't swap the motor out

 

 

[Mark92131]

18 hours ago, Lorin said:

^ Damn that’s sexy! Is that Nevada ?

 

That is what Nevada is suppose to look like, dark tan with olive undertones!  Unfortunately, you can only get it from Glasurit in their 22-Line.  I agonized about the final color for this car for weeks.  Numerous spray-outs later (Turkis, Bakail, Reseda Green, Derby, Florida, Opal Green, Cypress Green, Nevada), I settled on Nevada, the original color of this BMW 1600.  The owner of this car got the correct paint color for Nevada.  I hope mine looks as good out of the booth.

 

Mark92131

[M3M3]

4 hours ago, Tdh said:

Dammit @M2M3, put a fender blanket on that thing!   That paint’s too nice to screw up! 

LOL...given the amount of time the car spends on track collecting paint nicks on the nose and wheel wells, that would be a bit hypocritical...?

[bmw_e30]

On 9/20/2021 at 10:33 AM, AceAndrew said:

 

Slav .... Rod Emory, Rob Dickinson, Jack Olsen, Magnus Walker, Dario Franchitti, Bruce Canepa (RIP), Daniel Ricciardo, Freeman Thomas, and hundreds more would like a word with you.  Unless there is a disconnect in how we are defining restomod.

 

As for this engine and it's sale ... lol.

 

why did you put rip next to bruce canepa?

[AceAndrew]

Was under the mistaken impression that he passed away .... not super familiar with the Porsche community I'm afraid.

[Milo]

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Edited March 14, 2022 by Vladimir

[Mark92131]

6 minutes ago, Autostrada said:

I don't know if they still do. Four liters or a gallon of single stage 22 line with hardener and reducer costs about $1,400.

 

Mine was mix to use, 1 Gallon, $900 and change.  My painter has shot this paint before, stripped to bare metal and sealed.  That's part of the reason it's been in the shop for 1.5 years.  I'll let you know how it turns out.

 

Mark92131

[M3This]

My plan was all along to do a S14 but not with the prices I’m 2nd guessing that. I went looking but couldn’t find any threads comparing built M10 and built M20 swaps and how they compare to a S14. Anyone have any info they can link me too?  Ideally I would like a set up around 200-220hp and with efi 

[AceAndrew]

There are not many direct comparisons .... I suspect one of the camps would be less inclined.

 

Here's an interesting clip though ... two quick drag pulls featuring a stock 2.5L M20 swapped 2002 and a stroker 2.5L S14 E30M3

 

 

 

 

Also .... spent a long time developing the humbly-named Ultimate Street Stroker M20 (2.9L) Engine.  It'll get you a zippy 220-235whp w/ near OEM reliability, sound amazing, and look period correct (being part of the single-cam engine line).  Not cheap, but very very very fun.  If that swap is one you want to explore, i'm happy to help answer questions.

 

BMW M20 - Ultimate Street Stroker Engine Checklist (adamsautosport.com)

 

 

Food for thought ... so much fun to be had!

[Tommy]

2 hours ago, M3This said:

My plan was all along to do a S14 but not with the prices I’m 2nd guessing that. I went looking but couldn’t find any threads comparing built M10 and built M20 swaps and how they compare to a S14. Anyone have any info they can link me too?  Ideally I would like a set up around 200-220hp and with efi 

F20C Honda would check those boxes (+few hp's) without any building but installation. Quite many people think that the cars' spirit is lost if  wrong make engine is put in but I don't quite get that. I feel it suits better than any 6-cylinder, but I do get those looks, even with a racecar.

[wkohler]

I am fortunate to have an S14, but instead of putting it in an '02 (I'd have to buy a third one that doesn't run), I'm waiting for the right M3 to come along that needs a motor (either a roller or one someone has swapped).