It's even the right color

[TobyB]

I finally stopped by the PO this morning.

 

Favor:  does anyone have a 43:1 Expand-o-Ray that I can borrow for just a few minutes?

 

t

 

[TobyB]

...for relevance, here are the taillights in front of Mt CatSnoozius.

 

They looks likes 2002s taillights to mees.

 

t

 

[ray_]

Expando-who?

 

?

[zinz]

40 minutes ago, TobyB said:

..for relevance, here are the taillights in front of Mt CatSnoozius.

 

Zagato in front of ze gato

 

 

Beautiful cars...

 

https://www.thornleykelham.com/1950-ferrari-195s/1963-lancia-flaminia-sport-3c/#ad-image-0

 

 

 

https://www.kidston.com/motorcars/1962-lancia-flaminia-sport-3c-0/

 

 

Edited June 7, 2021 by zinz

[Conserv]

1 hour ago, zinz said:

 

Zagato in front of ze gato

 

Wow! ?

 

[Lorin]

1 hour ago, Conserv said:

Wow! ?

 

That’s the truth!

[zinz]

2 hours ago, Conserv said:

Wow! ?

I’m here all week... don’t forget to tip your waitress ?

[Mike Self]

I did some research about those round tail light origins for a Roundel column back in 2017.  According to a member of the BMW design staff, my assumption that the design was adapted from the BMW 3200CS Bertone coupe wasn't correct.  In fact, the earliest drawings of what became Type 114 (the original 1600) showed horizontal tail lights similar to those on the NK sedans and the 2000CS coupe.  It wasn't until the last design drawings that those iconic round tail lights appeared.  And the source?

 

...the round tail light inspiration came from our side of the pond.  Think back to American cars from the late 50s/early 60s, especially Ford and Chevrolet.  Other than the teardrop tail lights on the ‘59s, every full-sized Chevrolet, plus the Corvairs and Corvettes, had multiple round tail lights from 1958 until well after the 1600-2 appeared. 

 

Same with Ford.  Beginning with their full sized cars as early as 1952, Thunderbirds in 1954 and Falcons in 1960, round tail lights predominated— up to six on 1958-60 T-Birds and large pairs on Falcons,’61-on Thunderbirds and Galaxies.     

 

I was as surprised as you might be to learn this; it looked like a slam dunk for the Bertone coupe as the origin.  But coming from AG's design studio folks--who ought to know--and have access to the files, it looks pretty firm to me.

 

Now the question is whether Bertone "borrowed" from the Zagato design, or vice-versa.

 

mike

[gary32]

There are some pretty obscure 60's and 70's German cars out there that have very interesting roots.

(you know I had to pick a rotary) Sorry Toby you can have your thread back.

[TobyB]

NSU?

 

It's a styling thread, (right?) so I note that the taillights look a LOT like an E21.

 

This was a wonderful era of car design, when there was enough cross- pollination that

lots of things look like lots of other things, BUT each one was developed on its own, 

so that it can stand on its own, stylistically.

 

Sometimes.

 

t

 

[ray_]

We live in the best era of car design. 

 

They now come in all the colours of the rainbow; black, silver, white...

 

 

?

[Lorin]

1 hour ago, ray_ said:

We live in the best era of car design. 

 

They now come in all the colours of the rainbow; black, silver, white...

 

 

?

Or anthracite if you really want to be a rebel. 

[Son of Marty]

2 hours ago, ray_ said:

They now come in all the colours of the rainbow; black, silver, white..

Remember if you have a silver or gray car don't turn on the lights in the rain or snow, it's gotta be in a memo ?.