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Does the flange sit too close to the trans to get nuts on it?

 

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is never opposed to shortening a bolt.

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16 minutes ago, TobyB said:

Does the flange sit too close to the trans to get nuts on it?

 

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is never opposed to shortening a bolt.

Toby, I can get nuts on, and either shave the threaded end of the bolt or use a washer under the head to get space.  This doesn’t solve the rubbing giubo problem, though.

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17 hours ago, ray_ said:

we loaded my suspect 245 into the cargo compartment of his Twin Comanche and returned with a known good 245.

 

Cool, another vintage machine, me like.

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See repost below with photos.
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1 minute ago, 0257 said:
1 minute ago, 0257 said:
So guess what?  Right here in Sarasota FL, where there must be all of about 6 ‘02s (3 of them under boxes in garages), my friend Carl came up with the flange on the left below, one day after I reported the problem to him.  Between 6 and 8 mm more space in back, same length, diameter and spline spacing on the shaft as the one I pulled (shown on the right). 
 
 
 
The left flange should both get the bolts off the tranny houseing and solve my giubo-rubbing problem nicely. And I think it works out just about perfect for driveshaft length, as there was a couple mm gap between driveshaft and flange previously that I was a little worried about.  Only question now is whether the shortened driveshaft will be too long, having (according to the fellow who sold me this rig) been cut for the flange on the right.  But I’m sorry, I don’t believe he ever ran the car with the flange on the right.  Big noise, followed by expensive shredding of metal and rubber, would have followed in short order.
 
But then, ask me how it went with the new flange in a few days.  It looks like the answer...
 
So it appears there’s flanges and then there’s flanges.  According to Carl, he’s pretty sure the one on the left is from a 245, but we’re not sure which model car — e21 320, 318?  E30?  Anybody?  Anybody know how to tell? The left-hand flange bears three marks: ‘811’, ‘G’ and an oval boss. The right-hand flange bears ‘240’, ‘E’ and a diamond boss.

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The one on the left is the correct one for a getrag 245. The one on the right is for a early getrag 240 which replaced the 245 in the e21 around 1981.

 

Wierd that the 245 one says 811 on it and the 240 one says 240 on it. I guess they learned the KISS rule.

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Mystery solved, I think.  Thanks, all, as usual!

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17 minutes ago, Slavs said:

I've attached pics and measurements of the 320i trans / Guibo flanges. The two taller ones, one a 4 hole, the other a 3 hole are from 245 / 5 transmissions rescued from salvage yards 20 years ago. I don't know where the shorter one came from, but I believe it was the one that somebody attempted using on a 245 / 5 , unsuccessfully.

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Do you think the Santa Claus references in our flange photos are a coincidence, or is there some deeper meaning there too?

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20 minutes ago, 0257 said:

Mystery solved, I think.  Thanks, all, as usual!

That seems odd.

 

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8 minutes ago, ray_ said:

 

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Flew in one of those in Freiburg, West Germany back in ‘81.  Fast.

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52 minutes ago, 0257 said:

Flew in one of those in Freiburg, West Germany back in ‘81.  Fast.

Quite a handful to fly in single engine operation or so  I’ve heard?

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3 minutes ago, tech71 said:

Quite a handful to fly in single engine operation or so  I’ve heard?

That's what's great about light twin aircraft, you loose one engine and the other one will take you all the way to the crash site. Sorry a old aviation joke.

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On 5/5/2021 at 4:10 PM, 0257 said:

Do you think the Santa Claus references in our flange photos are a coincidence, or is there some deeper meaning there too?

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