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So I bought this bag of squirrels on Craigslist. Top covers are Spanish 45’s but the carbs appear to be 40’s... My understanding is that the top covers are universal (ish) so im guessing someone broke a float tab and found new covers. I’m going to try to sell them and I’d just like to know what I have so I can be accurate in my description. Spanish? Italian? Chinese? Any insight is helpful. Thanks everyone. 
 

 

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Boy that's a tough one, for those who value the Italian quality I wouldn't mark them off much, for those who don't care the same, Spanish dcoe's seem to be right or badly made, the quality control is all over the board compared to the originals. I want to know what the 2 extra ribs on the tops are for? IMHO. 

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3 minutes ago, Son of Marty said:

Boy that's a tough one, for those who value the Italian quality I wouldn't mark them off much, for those who don't care the same, Spanish dcoe's seem to be right or badly made, the quality control is all over the board compared to the originals. I want to know what the 2 extra ribs on the tops are for? IMHO. 


I’m stumped too... on value and the ribs lol. The thing that got me scratching my head was there are no bolts on the bottom. If I remember correctly they exist so that you can tighten/loosen/change chokes and ventures... One carb is missing idol jets, pump jets, main jets, and one Venturi but that shouldn’t matter all THAT much to someone as most of that would need to be changed to set up the car anyway... 

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All the brass jets and fittings are worth $1.23 a pound, so there's that.  The progression holes might tell you if they are a matched pair  which might be worth something, but judging from kludging and parts incest, I'd guess they might make nice desktop pen holders.

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I’m in to them for $400... That’s not what I was hoping to hear lol. I have the manifolds, linkage, 320i water pipe, and water divider for the swap. In the next couple of days I guess I’ll post it all up as a package in the for sale section and see what happens. Maybe someone will see value in a package. I appreciate the information from everyone as I don’t want to misrepresent anything I am trying to sell. 

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You should atleast be able to get your $400 back and maybe make a slight profit.

 

I would see if I could find some 40 top covers or whole 40 carbs for parts to increase the value.

 

If I couldn't find 40 top covers I'd grind the spain, 45 and any serial numbers off the 45 top covers so there is no confusion. 

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Is the goal to flip 'em or use 'em?

 

Having a self-refurbished a set of italian DCOE's, and ran them the last 5-6 years or so, If I were in your shoes I'd be tempted to clean them up, inspect them, replace what needs it (seals, add choke deletes, etc), and throw them on a car to see how well you can get them to run. 

 

My guess is they would be worth a whole lot more to someone if you put some TLC in and could prove them a well running pair vs. having a bunch of office supplies stacked in the throttle bodies :)

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I chased the dcoe rabbit down the hole on the last car... mikuni 44’s, Weber 45’s, single sidedraft 45... could never get the linkage or jetting right... I’m done with them... This time, I’m gonna take my meds... Yesterday I ordered a 38/38 kit... 

 

I bought these before I even had my car... I thought I could make a bucks or 2 on them... Always hustling... Sometimes you win, and sometimes you lose... To be completely honest though, these seem to be in really nice condition... nothings broken. Everything moves freely. They’re just missing some jets... Anyway, I’ll offer them up with everything else and see what the market tells me. Thank you everyone!

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1 hour ago, RoccoGilroy said:

could never get the linkage or jetting right

You have hit on one of the biggest problems folks have in working with any version of sidedrafts -- inconsistent, low-quality, high-maintenance linkage kits.  If only someone made a high-quality, no-maintenance, good looking sidedraft linkage kit for the 2002s!?  Oh that's right!  I do!  

If you don't have to worry about the linkage system affecting the tuning, you can concentrate on getting the carbs working properly.  That makes getting sidedrafts tuned in much easier.

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