Which wheels are these ?

[Damienh]

Hi All, first time posting so apologies if I put this in the wrong place.

 

Does anybody know which wheels and tires these are in the photo ? I haven't seen anything similar elsewhere. I guess they are not genuine Alpinas as I understand 15" won't fit ?

 

Many thanks,

 

Damien

 

 

 

[Damienh]

...just to answer my own question, from what I've found elsewhere on the forum, these seem to be OZ Alpina style 15/6, unless I'm mistaken ? and I guess there would be slight issues with rubbing.

[jazz_and_bimmers]

Getting some scammer energy from you. Will await your next post!

[Damienh]

What a nice warm welcome to the forum that is.

 

Racking my brain to understand what devious intent seems to be apparent in my original post.

 

I've only had my 2002tii project for about 3 weeks so have a lot to learn. It seemed to me that the easy option for wheels would be proper Alpinas from an E21, but I understand these just don't work. I mean to say, that's the style of wheel I like. I've read up a lot more now then when I posted that, and I still don't know to be honest, even people who have fitted the Oz 15" wheels can't seem to agree definitively if they rub on the arches or not, even with rolled fenders. It seems wheel options are pretty limited on these cars. But really this isn't something that I'm seriously investigating now, more important things to think about. Steel wheels look fine to me, it won't be a custom type job anyway.

 

I see you've an e9, so you'll probably be a member on the e9coupe site. I've got the same username on there and have been a member for 15 years or more, so hopefully that puts your mind to rest about whether or not I plan to sell that highly confidential and prized information on aftermarket wheel options to the Russians.

 

Regards,

 

Damien

[jazz_and_bimmers]

Glad to be wrong, sir! Try posting your topic in the general 2002 forums for better engagement, This is a Ti specific forum.

[Damienh]

Thanks, I might give that a try some time. I didn't realise there was a more general section. On the homepage the "...and other '02" part of the forum title doesn't show unless you actually go looking in there.

 

Regards,

 

Damien

[Conserv]

Yes, Damien, you’ve posted in the wrong section; but you’re neither the first nor last to do that! ?

 

You can read through lots of commentary on fitting rims in multiple threads — all in the “other”, general forum. And you will come away with a simple answer: a 7 x 15 rim — far from the original 4 1/2 x 13 and 5 x 13 rims — might fit on your car without rubbing, or modifications.”

 

There were variations from car to car when they were new. Fifty years later, some combination of use, damage, repair, replacement parts (including OEM and aftermarket, new and used), and willful modification (e.g., lowering, negative camber plates), mean that variations from car to car are considerably greater today. Unless you’ve owned your car from new — and even then there were a couple months that passed between manufacture and delivery when the original owner was not present — you really don’t know its history (Yes, I recognize that every car owned by its third owner is labeled as “never been hit”. Yeah, right!).

 

Add the fact that every make and model of tire has a different profile: some more “square-shouldered”, some more “rounded”, and it’s impossible to predict. Recall, you are attempting to fit a rim and tire no factory engineer would suggest in 1972. ‘02’s came with 13” rims and 165/80-13 tires. Period. Full stop. And that’s all that will fit in the spare tire well. No accident, part of the plan!

 

Your best bet in a 7 x 15 rim has an offset of ET28 to ET25. You may find that the fronts are OK, but the rear fender lips require rolling the lips.

 

You may find that the fronts rub a bit at hard lock, or at hard-lock-while-entering-a-driveway. Or maybe they won’t. Or maybe they will and you won’t hear it.

 

So... lots of owners run 7 x 15 rims on ‘02’s. You wouldn’t be the first or the last! Those threads on the correct “forum” will provide the best guidance as to which tire sizes, and which tire brands and models, are most likely to work best.

 

Regards,

 

Steve

 

[Damienh]

What an excellent detailed response Steve, very much appreciate your input. This all correlates with everything I’ve read on the subject so far. The car in the photo for sure has probably had all manner of modifications done as you say. My own, I do think, being a barn find type project and off the road for some 27 years, probably is quite original, I expect the options would have been quite limited the 5 or 10 years prior to that when it was last loved. I’ll take my business to the appropriate forum when I come to revisit this subject in a few months time, meanwhile lots of other things I need to get up to speed on. Kind regards, Damien

[popovm]

 

Hi @Damienh, below are a couple wheel fitment resources to dig through. And here are some Rota Alpina replicas that are made specifically for 2002s: https://www.rogerstii.com/bmw-2002-alpina-look-rota-r20-15-x-6-wheel-set-of-4/

 

 

 

[bavariaboy]

Damienh, welcome. I am on e9coupe everyday posting at CSteve. I sold my coupe a year ago to a new steward, had purchased a cherry 76 2002 and now divide my time between the two boards.

 

Shortly(really shortly) after I purchased my '02  I posted a WTB note for chrome bumpers to replace the big jobbies, I was immediately scammed out of $500. My fault, an expensive lesson about paypal and "friends and family."  

 

So when you appear with five posts and a gorgeous Golf babe on your arm, delicious eye candy, that is probably going to trigger some alarms in some people's minds.  The other thing is I have noticed more scammers working this board than ever I saw on e9coupe.  

 

Delighted to have you aboard,

 

Steve ONeill    coupecs@aol.com

[Damienh]

Thanks Popovm (sorry, don’t know your real name), that is all great stuff, the Rogersti wheels could be a great option actually, and kind of confirm my suspicion that 15/6 rather than 15/7 would work better.

 

Steve, yes I get your point, what a nightmare. Thankfully I’ve not been scammed myself, and have had amazing support and great dealings with forum members on the e9 side, in fact just today I’ve received in the post a hard to find part from a forum member where he refused to take payment from me until I received, assessed, and made a fair offer. But of course, as you say, as a brand new user nobody can determine whether you are genuine without seeing historic posts. There is a lot of trust involved, but at the same time I try to take people at face value, like in real life, until they are asking me for money. Then I generally do a bit more research. Hopefully nobody thought that was my car in the original post ! It’s just the best picture of well fitting wheels in the style I liked from some dealer website. I probably would have known what wheels were on it if it was my car, but it’s the same model and colour, mine’s “ever so slightly” more rusty though.

[popovm]

On 3/3/2021 at 7:04 AM, Damienh said:

Thanks Popovm (sorry, don’t know your real name), that is all great stuff, the Rogersti wheels could be a great option actually, and kind of confirm my suspicion that 15/6 rather than 15/7 would work better.

 

Steve, yes I get your point, what a nightmare. Thankfully I’ve not been scammed myself, and have had amazing support and great dealings with forum members on the e9 side, in fact just today I’ve received in the post a hard to find part from a forum member where he refused to take payment from me until I received, assessed, and made a fair offer. But of course, as you say, as a brand new user nobody can determine whether you are genuine without seeing historic posts. There is a lot of trust involved, but at the same time I try to take people at face value, like in real life, until they are asking me for money. Then I generally do a bit more research. Hopefully nobody thought that was my car in the original post ! It’s just the best picture of well fitting wheels in the style I liked from some dealer website. I probably would have known what wheels were on it if it was my car, but it’s the same model and colour, mine’s “ever so slightly” more rusty though.

 

Totally fine to refer to me by my forum handle, but the name's Michael.  Good to meet you! 

 

Yeah, surprising amount of scam activity here. I confidently buy parts via a bicycle forum I frequent (bikeforums.net, I go by "tricky" over there), but you do need to be a paying member to post for sale ads there. It might piss a few people off here, but I think it would be worth it give the thousands of $ I've seen people lose through here. 

 

Edited March 4, 2021 by popovm

[Damienh]

Thanks Michael, I’ll be aware.

 

Wish you hadn’t reminded me about that bike forum, the last time I looked on there a couple of years back I ended up building an 80’s road bike which I really didn’t have the spare time or need to !

[jgerock]

Several reproductions have been made of the “Alpina” 21 spoke wheels.  I had a set of Rota brand wheels from an older FAQ group buy, but never used them (new in boxes). I sold them to another FAQ’r who mounted them on his car - then sold the car on BaT.

[Conserv]

To be clear:

 

1. I cannot imagine, personally, installing 15” rims on a street ‘02. I’m simply too into “stock cars”, but...

 

2. Because I do not like “negative” surprises, if I were fitting 15 x 7 rims, I would assume that any 15 x 7 setup on an ‘02 would require some modifications to the car. And I would be pleasantly surprised if no modifications were required. ?

 

A 15 x 6 rim takes away some of the... “fitment pressure”!
 

Regards,

 

Steve